Author Topic: USA can legaly invade holland ?????  (Read 1181 times)

Offline BUG_EAF322

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USA can legaly invade holland ?????
« on: June 11, 2002, 05:25:21 PM »
WTF Bush thinks ????????

If any US soldier goes out off line and get's for an international court.  In holland USA keep it's rights to free the soldier and if neccesary use force.

That's no way to deal with a freindly (NATO) nation
WHAT the hell does Bush thinks .

Please send this man to his normal work (farming) or playing cowboy on some ranche.

Again proof bush IQ cannot be higher than about 60.

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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2002, 05:28:56 PM »
Erm... could you post a link?  The translation is lost through the rage.

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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2002, 05:29:53 PM »
heh where did you hear this?

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2002, 05:32:18 PM »
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
WTF Bush thinks ????????

[SNIP, lots of ramblings]

Again proof bush IQ cannot be higher than about 60.


Hmm..yes...OR this could be taken as proof that you dont really know what you are talking about...

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2002, 05:35:54 PM »
Just readed something on my trip home to holland in the plane.

Been away a week .

As far as i know USA doesn't respect inernational peace court in Den Haag.

That's the clue.


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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2002, 05:37:51 PM »
Specifics would be nice.  The example of the airman convicted (rightfully imo) of rape in Japan just a couple of months ago would indicate that we're not going to invade Holland because some GI got out of hand in Amsterdam's red light district and got arrested.

Unless you're citing a general reservation of the right to protect its citizens, which is hardly anything new.

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2002, 05:39:06 PM »
First Holland.....

THEN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!

:)
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2002, 05:44:53 PM »
I think I'm beginning to understand now.

(For a number of reasons) The US does not recognize the jurisdiction of the International court of Justice in the Hauge. That means that any findings of that court will be regarded as non-existant by the US. It has happened before (for example, when Nicaragua took the US to court in 1980-something, Nicaragua won (apparently it is illegal to mine harbours in other nations, and train insurgents to overthrow the government) but so what? Since the US has not recognized the court, they are not bound by its rulings).

Now, the ICJ in the Hauge is the court that handles all war crimes trials (like modern Nuremberg) and there are some US servicemen that might be interesting for that court (for example, the US attacks against Serbia and Kosovo was completely against international law) so in theory the court could issue a warrant on some US military personell.

But since the US does not recognice the ICJ, this might lead to a problem.

But I seriously doubt we will see the USMC storm ashore on the beaches of Holland anytime soon.

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2002, 05:47:27 PM »
On the other hand, if it's legal let's do it.  I'd be happy to supervise aquisition and inspection of the brothels.

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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2002, 05:47:59 PM »
While stationed in Germany I discovered several cases of US soldiers travelling to  Holland on leave. If, they had one spot of rust on their car, they could very well find their car condemned and seized. Of course, that led to a lot of US soldiers getting busted for being AWOL.

There's a lot of good in Holland, but there's a lot of BS too.

I'm betting on BS here.

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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2002, 05:52:17 PM »
Yep US soldiers are allowed to rampage all over other countries and get away scot free at our militaries discretion.

Standard goverment issue, includes a monopoly get out of jail free card redeemable while in any foreign country.

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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2002, 05:53:56 PM »
Of cource it would not be legal. Who ever said that ? (apart from mr creativity at the top of this thread)

The US invading Holland to free some soldier arrested by the ICJ would be about as leagal as Libya invading Holland to free their  Lockerbie terrorists=Not very.

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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2002, 06:07:15 PM »
Does the US have a "Status of Forces" Agreement with Holland? That would clear all this up in a real hurry.

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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2002, 06:51:39 PM »
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
WTF Bush thinks ????????

If any US soldier goes out off line and get's for an international court.  In holland USA keep it's rights to free the soldier and if neccesary use force.

That's no way to deal with a freindly (NATO) nation
WHAT the hell does Bush thinks .

Please send this man to his normal work (farming) or playing cowboy on some ranche.

Again proof bush IQ cannot be higher than about 60.


And this situation has been in place for how long?

If I were you I wouldn't be calling anyone stupid.
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2002, 06:59:28 PM »
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Originally posted by Kanth
Yep US soldiers are allowed to rampage all over other countries and get away scot free at our militaries discretion.

Standard goverment issue, includes a monopoly get out of jail free card redeemable while in any foreign country.

DmdKanth


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