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Offline Sachs

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2002, 12:42:03 AM »
Not the right thread but the ME-410 B2/U4 with the 50mm flown by Lt. Fros of 2./ZG26 in the month of April 1944 had 3 kills of b-17's with the 50mm. Bring it to AH!!!!

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2002, 04:08:51 AM »
True Spritle, not many flew with it, it was used (with success) in combat but was really too much of a gun for that airplane, which was already, too heavily armored for the power it had (cockpit was surounded with 75mm armored glass for instance), a flying tank but a sitting duck. A near dead sitting duck with the 75mm. The Mk103 and Mk101 were used far more often as anti tank weapons.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2002, 06:11:33 AM »
129s would rock!
I want one!

Only problem is can you imagine making a gun pass on an osty,m16, or even an m3 for goodness sakes! Try it with a hurri d. Its not very fun. You gotta wait til he's looking opposite way and hope you can get in before he swings gun around. The hurri d can defend itself against enemy fighters (except p38 run outta 40mm before you damage that tank) While the 129 would be a sitting duck. But no matter I want one!
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2002, 07:35:41 AM »
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
These guns would be excelent anti-ship weapons, a good choice against destroyers or, if included in the future, cargo vessels.


Well, in real life they wouldn't be. While the B25H was designed to use its 75 mm versus shipping, it was costal shipping and anti-submarine patrols one had in mind for the gun. A destroyer is far to sturdy a ship to take much damage from a couple 15 lbs rounds.

Even your standard merchant ship could withstand a great deal of damage, especially the larger ones, altough this varied according to cargo (crude loaded tankers were rather vulnerable, for example).

That's why destroyers moved to greater calibers after 1905. Up untill then 75mm would suffice, as the destroyers of the time were about half as large as the later models (also, their primary function was to engage torpedo boats, and rate of fire was essential for that purpose). To be sure, it took a couple of hundred rounds to disable a destroyer (as proven in the Russo-Japanese war, where destroyer duels were mostly incoclusive, despite hits on both sides).

Destroyers of WWII were armed with guns from 120mm and up to 150mm. The weapon of choice for sinking destroyers were the 6'' guns of the light cruisers, firing 110 lbs shells. Still, several full hits were required to disable a destroyer.

The 75mm would however be great vs PT boats, ammo dumps, fuel tanks, GV's (all but the PIV and Osty should be destroyed by a full hit of HE from any 75mm gun), not to mention vulching :).

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2002, 08:53:41 AM »
Phoo21... you are attacking the GV's in the wrong way.. Try to attack from 75 to 90 deg.. "always" works for me..

Low level attacks are suicidal ;)