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Offline 28sweep

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Does the F8F have a place here?
« on: June 19, 2002, 11:39:35 AM »
If memory serves me right-this fighter was optimized for speed, climb and maneuverability-not for range like most US fighters.  So in short-its not a flying gas tank like all of the US fighters.  I believe it still holds the world record for a piston engine plane for time to 10,000ft.  Sounds like it would fit in real good in the MA.  I mean it should be perked but for base defense etc. it would be fun to have.  Did it ever see any action anywhere?  I don't think so…..is that a requirement for AH?????
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Offline Hooligan

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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2002, 11:47:38 AM »
It would be a monstrous MA plane.  So far HTC seems to be limiting the plane set to aircraft that shot at enemy aircraft during the war.  However at the rate HTC is adding aircraft and expanding the player base it seems inevitable that some day there will be a place to fly F8Fs, SeaFurys, P-51Hs etc.. against each other.

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2002, 02:06:39 PM »
The F8F Bearcat did not see any service in the war. It flew missions, but never ran into combat. It's speed was 421, it climbed to 10K faster than any jet made in that time. It had 4 x 20mm cannon or 4 x .50 caliber machine guns. It actually had a longer range than the F6F Hellcat. F6F could go 1040 miles on internal fuel. The F8F could go 1105 miles. Its climb rate was about 4,570 FPM from the book I have here. It was the fastest piston-engined production aircraft ever built. It was 20 percent lighter than the Hellcat and had a 30 percent better climb than the Hellcat. Its engine was rated at 2100hp a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W engine. I hope that helps you out. Everyone!

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Offline 214thCavalier

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2002, 02:48:57 PM »
Seafury piston engined, 460 mph at 18000ft.
Think Tempest on steroids.
Believe they were used in unlimited class air racing setting speed records.
Unfortunately not used in WW2.
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Offline Dr Zhivago

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2002, 03:27:20 PM »
Do335 Pfeil, max speed 478 mph (770kmh) at 21,000ft (6400m), cruising speed 426mph (685kmh) at 23,295ft (7100m) and service ceiling 37,400ft (11400m)...
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Offline Steven

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2002, 03:42:52 PM »
The F8F is probably pushing things.  But I'd like to see one since it's one of my favorites.
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Offline Nashwan

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2002, 04:10:04 PM »
Tempest II, 150 octane fuel and water injection. 3000hp, 426mph at sea level, 451mph at 7,000ft.

There's a few charts over at Butch's board
http://pub47.ezboard.com/fallboutwarfarefrm1
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Offline SELECTOR

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2002, 06:04:28 PM »
F8F nice plane.. But  NO! it has no place here..
there are 100s of almost made it into the war...
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Offline whels

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2002, 06:59:39 PM »
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F8F nice plane.. But  NO! it has no place here..
there are 100s of almost made it into the war...
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actual this was a ww2 production plane, it was on combat
duty in the pacific. USS Langley, VF 18 and 19 i think.

war ended before thier TG made it to front lines near japan.

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Offline Starbird

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2002, 07:38:06 PM »
Heres an article on flying the bearcat someone might find interesting

http://www.avweb.com/articles/pelperch/pelp0039.html
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Offline Viper17

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2002, 07:46:47 PM »
Well how bout a F7F Tigercat and F9F Panther. And  we can call it eaven:rolleyes: Realy the F7F would be a good adition.
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Offline RRAM

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2002, 07:52:01 PM »
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Tempest II, 150 octane fuel and water injection. 3000hp, 426mph at sea level, 451mph at 7,000ft.
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Heh I honestly would like to know how would a Ju213A engine perform with 150 octane fuel and MW50...

knowing that with C3 (96 octane?) and MW50 the Ju213A had an output of 2600hp...(or was it 2250hp?...heh I still don't understand the 190D9 charts very well, I'm afraid :D) you can only guess the class of superengine -and superplane- we're talking about. :)



[edit] looking at the power chart for the Ju213A, with B4 and MW50 the plane delivered 2100hp@SL, and whith some special thing -not sure what it is- it delivered 2250hp@SL.

I guess that with C3+MW50 the engine delivered those 2600hp I've read somewhere else...can someone put more data on this?. if so,Post it here :)  -don't want this to go offtopic so I started another thread on my own :)
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Offline Wilbus

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2002, 08:17:15 PM »
Fastest piston engine aircraft ever is pretty much an overstatement I'd say.

Many planes had a top speed faster then the F8F.

THE Fastest piston engine plane ever flown was an XP47 (P47M Prototype) that reached 510mph in level flight.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2002, 08:56:18 PM »
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Does the F8F have a place here?


No

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2002, 10:03:09 PM »
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Seafury piston engined, 460 mph at 18000ft.
Think Tempest on steroids.
Believe they were used in unlimited class air racing setting speed records.
Unfortunately not used in WW2.


P-47M, 470 MPH:)
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