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Offline K West

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Does the F8F have a place here?
« Reply #105 on: July 02, 2002, 10:52:20 AM »
FYI (anyone who's curious) here is what the other two planes were in competition with Grumman for the USN needs:




Curtiss XF14C  http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/aircraft/xf14c.htm





Boeing  XF8B-1 http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/aircraft/xf8b-1.htm

Offline K West

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Does the F8F have a place here?
« Reply #106 on: July 02, 2002, 11:02:18 AM »
OMG!!!!!  Douglas copied the FW-190 back in 1942 also when they designed the BTD-1.


(and the XF7F Tigercat which was ordered by the USN in June of 1941. Same small cowl, slim engine bacelle with the same exhaust system used by the F6F anf F8F.  Maybe FW borrowed the idea from Grumman? oh lordy, bite my tongue!!! ;)  )
« Last Edit: July 02, 2002, 11:35:45 AM by K West »

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Does the F8F have a place here?
« Reply #107 on: July 02, 2002, 12:19:47 PM »
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Then F6F Hellcat is small to you as well Steven?

No, I do not consider the Hellcat a small airframe and I do not consider the Corsair as being a small airframe either.  However, the idea behind the Corsair was an attempt to match a large engine to a small airframe.  This is supposedly the idea the Bearcat copied from the FW as you sometimes state, but I differ and say this idea has been around for a long time.  It was there with the Corsair, with the GB racer and even harking back to WW1.  Otherwise, the physical similarities between the Bearcat and FW aren't there more than with any other aircraft.  Had the Bearcat not needed the strength for CV operations, it would've probably been even smaller than it is or an attempt to make it smaller.  

You argue furny.  Yes, the Corsair's wings were bent so as to avoid the prop from hitting the ground.  The answers were either longer landing gear which is a bad idea for a CV aircraft or bend the wings.  It's funny that you say the wings were bent to shorten the landing gear...which is a truth but not the whole picture.

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Kurt tank didnt invent F8F, but he invented the plane that F8F was based on.

Ever since you made this statement, you've been dancing all around.  Basically, no... the FW is not the basis for the Bearcat.

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Does the F8F have a place here?
« Reply #108 on: July 02, 2002, 12:29:30 PM »
Look at those lightweight figters the navy was asking for!!!!  

:D

Why didnt Grumman get that memo?

Now look I think the FW190 strongly influenced Grummans design direction on Bearcat while some of you guys dont and others yey just wanna make fun of Kurt Tank for some reason.

Guess thats the only place this is going.  

 
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Offline eddiek

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No, this thread left the tracks about 80 replies ago.....
« Reply #109 on: July 02, 2002, 12:49:08 PM »
The initial question was:
"Does the F8F Have a Place Here?"
Answer the question, let's stop this trivial arguing.

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Re: No, this thread left the tracks about 80 replies ago.....
« Reply #110 on: July 02, 2002, 01:28:37 PM »
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Originally posted by eddiek

"Does the F8F Have a Place Here?"
Answer the question,


Don't you think the question was pretty much answered?

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