goon ramming. etic and technic

[bozon]

I joined my squadies trying to capture a knit base.
after some skirmishing and putting all 3400 bullets of the p-47D11 "spitbolt" into good use, I was running back home on the deck with a 109 trailing me from afar.

as I'm approaching home base, I see a dot growing on my 10oc. that dot turned out to be a knit goon otw to my base.
as I had no bullets to shoot him down, I passed him by wing-to-wing, waved goodbye and continued running for landing with the 109 behind me (and calling goon's location on country channel).

comming close to the base I see the town fully down, with no freindlies in position to kill the goon. So I turn back and decide my only option is to ram him.
I closed on his 6 and flew through him as he goes straight and level. I was "inside" him for over a second - my jug broke into pieces while the goon went on for the drop...

the points:
1. how "legit" is this ramming?
2. if so, how should I do it to make it work? I made sure to come slow enough so on his machine the update would put my jug inside his c-47 as well. could be net lag caused a quantum leap on his machine?

Bozon

[K West]

"So I turn back and decide my only option is to ram him."

 And some of you maroons (see past collision whines here and in the gameplay forum) actually want to change the current collision system to ensure mutual "death"?

 Bozon, you died because YOU rammed him. He did not collide with you so he was fine.  IN AH you cannot intentionally RAM anyone in AH with the nose of your aircraft, no matter what some of the vocaly ignorant bleet out on channel 1 (nIce rAm dWeEb!) in the MA.

Which is as it should be imNSHO.

  Westy

[Ripsnort]

What westy said.

[Gypsy Baron]

Originally posted by bozon

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2. if so, how should I do it to make it work? I made sure to come slow enough so on his machine the update would put my jug inside his c-47 as well. could be net lag caused a quantum leap on his machine?

Bozon

 You should have flown under him and then pulled up sharply
 in front of him, thereby hopefully causing HIM to ram you...

 I accomplished this ONCE against a Lanc after I was out
 of ammo in a 109...he died, I didn't...

[bozon]

And some of you maroons (see past collision whines here and in the gameplay forum) actually want to change the current collision system to ensure mutual "death"?

hehe, never asked and never will ask for such a thing

just wanted to know how many of you think this is "dirty playing" and/or how this collision thing works.
(btw, I've read the other collision thread by now)

Bozon

[jarbo]

Well this may be overkill, but this is how I understand net lag in the game.

[DmdNexus]

Well... sheesh.. bust my bubble,

And here I was thinking all Goons were EWEs when they are really RAMs!

[AKIron]

Have to disagree about not being able to ram another plane. It doesn't seem too difficult to do if neither plane is manuvering very much and both are on the same flight path. Net lag does make it difficult if the above is not true.

[Fester']

IVe done it in a yak on a number of times when I run out of ammo and dont feel like RTB'ing.

YOu need to be fast enough to overtake the target, just figgure that his FE will always sho you 20-30 yds behind where you see yourself to be.

You need to fly through him fast enough to accomodate this discrepancy.

Of course if he is manuevering this really complicates the matter.

Ive tried it twice and was successful both times.  Both were against non manuevering relatively slow targets.

Yes it was a mutual death, but IM a score potato and that extra kill really strokes my ego.

[SKurj]

its difficult but i have intentionally rammed planes a couple of times... and several times by accident +)

I used my goon to ram a fighter intent on killing my troops.. it worked... +)
the slower both cons are travelling the better the odds you both will detect a collision


SKurj

[AKSWulfe]

See, but you guys aren't actually ramming when you use net lag to force your ghost plane into the other players on his FE.. you're just gaming the net...

Can't say I haven't done it, but it's not actually ramming..
-SW

[AcId]

I've rammed a goon with a winchester Typh before. We both went down, mission accomplished

[rc51]

There should be NO place for ramming on purpose!!!!!
That Is the most moronis crap Ive heard yet!
Learn to fly then learn to fight and stop trying to find the cowards way out of a mess!!!!:mad:

[Mr Hanky]

Whenever there is an Me-262 in the area, I will up in a goon and try to ram him.

[Kratzer]

Disallowing ramming on some sort of moral or ethical basis is ridiculous.  If someone flies well enough to hit someone else on purpose, let 'em.