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Offline Heinkel

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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« on: June 25, 2002, 09:53:33 PM »
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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2002, 10:03:24 PM »
Yup, that's the same 'ol NACA chart that has been debated over and over.
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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2002, 10:15:11 PM »
Don't worry, i have like 4-5 more thing on the subject...just trying how to figure out to downsize them to fit on BBS

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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2002, 10:15:42 PM »
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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2002, 10:16:26 PM »
whops, pic did't attach

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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2002, 10:18:16 PM »
In Comparsion to f6f, F4u

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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2002, 10:28:04 PM »
Hmmm...i can't post other two., they won't fit on BBS, and if i convert to JPG, lots of quality lost.

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190 Roll Rate Chart (NACA) w/ Stick Forces
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2002, 11:06:45 PM »
FWIW, all Corsairs had boost tabs, on the ailerons as well as the elevators.

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2002, 03:13:12 AM »
Sorry to hijack but  does anyone  have roll rate figures for the 109Emil that could perhaps post it in another thread.

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2002, 04:22:06 AM »
The Bf109E had no ailerons. :(

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2002, 04:28:26 AM »
It's a little-known fact that the original Bf 109 had no control surfaces whatsoever.  The pilot controlled the plane by waving his arms about and shifting his weight in the cockpit.  It was not until Kurt Tank invented primary flight controls that Messerschmitt was able to overcome this technological hurdle.

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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2002, 04:52:32 AM »
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It's a little-known fact that the original Bf 109 had no control surfaces whatsoever.  The pilot controlled the plane by waving his arms about and shifting his weight in the cockpit.  It was not until Kurt Tank invented primary flight controls that Messerschmitt was able to overcome this technological hurdle.


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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2002, 02:31:31 PM »
LOL! Well funked I still want to know the roll rate. Supossedly it was the best rolling and best turning 109 of all the series at low airspeeds,then again a lot of things that are suppossed  to be are not  :rolleyes: so let me get out of the way  :D  .


Please continue with the  Fw190 discussion.

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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2002, 02:46:26 PM »
There are roll and turn diagrams for the 109E on my Spit I page; see signature.

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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2002, 07:25:52 PM »
I thought the evidence was pretty clear in previous posts few months back that either AH 109E rolls too slow, or SpitMkI rolls dang too fast.. anyhow, I'm a layman in these technical stuff.. maybe something I missed??

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 What I seem to notice is, wow, are the "F" wings and the "LF" wings really so much different in the Spitfire?? Clip a teeney section and the roll rate increase seems almost dramatical improvement.. impressive! Would there be a negative downside to the clipped wings??