Author Topic: Looney Left Strikes Again (Read 1340 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #15 on:** June 26, 2002, 02:50:10 PM »

So not only are you generalizing about San Francisco, you are generalizing about the Judge!

SHE has been there since 79. hehe:eek: Judge Mary Schroeder Chief Judge of Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals

You guys will never learn.

miko2d · « **Reply #16 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:09:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
One federal court says that Ohio's motto can be "With God All Things Are Possible", but another court says that "God" should not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance?

Why anyone (outslde Ohio) shoud care what Ohio residents do? They may decalre a state religion or paint themselves blue for alI care. If they do not like something, they can move to another state or change their state laws.
Plege of Allegiance is a federal affair. The separation of state and church is guaranteed to us by federal Constitution. Why should our children be brainwashed into religion while preforming perfectly reasonable patriotism-inspiring ritual?

Dollar is a piece of currency we use. We do not need to read all that is inscribed on it other then to ensure it's authenticity. When my child inquites about "In God We Trust" I will just reply - "ignore that traditional meaningless crap".
But when my child says "I plege allegiance...", I want him/her to mean every last word of it, not selected passages.

miko

Ripsnort · « **Reply #17 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:10:42 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
So not only are you generalizing about San Francisco, you are generalizing about the Judge!

SHE has been there since 79. hehe:eek: Judge Mary Schroeder Chief Judge of Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals

You guys will never learn.

I bet she supports socialism, and probably is Pro-life, and votes democrap....

hblair · « **Reply #18 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:23:24 PM »

I'm Christian and all for the seperation of church and state. But I'm not sure about this ruling. I didn't know that the words "under God" were added in 1954. I don't see what the harm of having those two words in there would do a non-believer. But I don't believe it should be forced down peoples throats either.

I do think the pledge oughta be in grammar school though. I think it helps teach everybody at least a little respect for the flag.

To go kinda go off subject a little, here in alabama we have a (now supreme court justice) judge who hangs the ten commandments on his wall. When he became chief justice he had a big couple ton (makes it hard for the demos to carry off) monument with the 10 commandments on it placed in the state house late one night. The democrats then wanted to have a copy of MLK's "I have a dream" speech put alongside it. For some reason or other he had say so over what went in there, and when the demos were placing the document state troopers made them leave. Now this is just retarded. If the judge is a christian why would he want to alienate so many people? I don't get this.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:43:22 PM »

This country was founded on 'In God We Trust'..

next we'll be taking it off our currencty, etc etc etc
b.s.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #20 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:45:19 PM »

Wlfgng, it was added to our money in the '40s... we were actually founded on the constitution.
-SW

Eagler · « **Reply #21 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:45:32 PM »

anyone ever testify in court?

who do you swear to as you enter the witness box?

" ...so help you God"

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Ain't surprised, amazed at the ever increasing numbers of ppl who do not believe in the Divine. Life and its struggles must be a real drag for you...

Eagler · « **Reply #22 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:47:32 PM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
Wlfgng, it was added to our money in the '40s... we were actually founded on the constitution.
-SW

Oh Ya, I remember now, our founding fathers were a bunch of atheists

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #23 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:48:24 PM »

I don't believe in the "Divine"... I have no deity I bow before.. I make it through life just fine, having fun, and enjoying myself.

Difrent strokes fer difrent folks.
-SW

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #24 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:50:29 PM »

Eagler, I wasn't saying anything other making a correction to a common misconception.

I'm not taking anything away from you religious folks, but the "In God We Trust" wasn't added until WWII on our money.
-SW

john9001 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 26, 2002, 03:53:55 PM »

when i was in grade school , i had to say the pledge of alligence AND the lords prayer, just think how messed up my mind must be from all them years of abuse as a child.

>sub note< the "lords prayer we said in school was different from the one we said in church, when i asked the church about that , the church said " just say the parts we use and ignore the rest".............ahhh , the days of freedom from big goverment and liberal lawyers

>sub note 2 < did you hear about the woman who laid down on sub-way tracks and was injured? she sued the city and won 10 million ( it's on appeal )

midnight Target · « **Reply #26 on:** June 26, 2002, 04:21:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler

Oh Ya, I remember now, our founding fathers were a bunch of atheists

Why do you reactionaries always jump to the conclusion that you must be an atheist to stand for separation of Church and State. Our founding fathers were hardly atheists (Ben Franklin is kind of a toss-up) but they did see the abuse caused by a State recognized religion. That is why the First Amendment was written into the Bill of Rights. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."

Pledging your allegience to a Flag and stating that it is "Under God" is so obviously against the 1st Amendment it is a wonder this has taken so long. This is a reference to God, and not all religions recognize God as the deity. You don't need to be an atheist to recognize that a State-run institution that requires its members (students) to recite this pledge would be "Respecting the establishment of a religion".

Eagler · « **Reply #27 on:** June 26, 2002, 04:27:00 PM »

Any of you God haters wanna bet the Supreme Court throws this wackos ruling out on its ear where it belongs??

Did you read up on the atheist that press the issue because of his 2nd grade kid had to say the pledge?

what a bunch of morons.................

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #28 on:** June 26, 2002, 04:42:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
anyone ever testify in court?

who do you swear to as you enter the witness box?

" ...so help you God"

I took the Fifth.

Daff · « **Reply #29 on:** June 26, 2002, 04:45:38 PM »

So, Eagler, would you accept your child having to denounce religion?.

Daff