Author Topic: Looney Left Strikes Again (Read 1341 times)

Eagler · « **Reply #60 on:** June 27, 2002, 05:46:16 AM »

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Originally posted by hblair
Miko, I respect you not wanting to lie to your children.

How is it a lie? Does miko no for certain there is no God or what was is the mind of the founding fathers?

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Eagler · « **Reply #61 on:** June 27, 2002, 05:50:00 AM »

This ruling will bite the left square in the arse, hopefully this coming November.

If somehow it doesn't, we are further down the road to ruin than I ever imagined....

Hortlund · « **Reply #62 on:** June 27, 2002, 05:52:00 AM »

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Well, not a law, but a perspective: That laws against murder are based upon the inaliable(sp?) rights "Life , Liberty, etc...

Nah, might wanna rethink that "inaliable right" to life, otherwise you would get into trouble with abortions and capital punishment.

OZkansas · « **Reply #63 on:** June 27, 2002, 07:11:04 AM »

Eagler, the left is on the run in the Senate! I heard Senator Bird state these judges who made this ruling should leave this country if they don't like God mentioned in the pledge! Senator Bird sure isn't very open minded as he claims he is. Man, he prolly voted to have these judges appointed.

You gotta love the left, ya just gotta love how they make fools of themselves at every turn, he heeeeeeeee

CH3 · « **Reply #64 on:** June 27, 2002, 07:19:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler

Oh Ya, I remember now, our founding fathers were a bunch of atheists

Actually they were a bunch of Freemasons. A central tenet of freemasonry is that you believe in a "Supreme Being" but they don't distinguish between God, Allah, Buddha etc etc.

Eagler · « **Reply #65 on:** June 27, 2002, 08:08:55 AM »

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Originally posted by CH3

Actually they were a bunch of Freemasons. A central tenet of freemasonry is that you believe in a "Supreme Being" but they don't distinguish between God, Allah, Buddha etc etc.

Neither do I & many others.

God, Allah, (name your favorite Supreme Being/New Age Life Force here) are all names of the same final Divine Presence in everything in Life. It's mans free will & his organized religions interpretation of said Divine which screws up the entire thing...

So they did "believe" in the Divine correct?
Or does the Freemasons idea of a "Supreme Being" ride around on a saucer shaped disk and have really big black eyes and long skinny arms and legs

popeye · « **Reply #66 on:** June 27, 2002, 08:37:14 AM »

Only in San Francisco are there judges with the balls to get up off their knees, and challenge the Taliban....er, Christian Right. Ironic, eh?

CH3 · « **Reply #67 on:** June 27, 2002, 09:02:55 AM »

miko2d · « **Reply #68 on:** June 27, 2002, 09:12:09 AM »

But I do not want my child to skip pleging his/her allegiance to the United States of America! I want him/her to be an involved citizen, serve in a military etc.
Why does allegiance to the state has to be linked to allegiance to God? Are we living in a fundamental religious state?

As for being able to skipplege of allegiance, you guys are ignorant of your own history. People (Jehova's witnesses and others) were beaten fro refusing to do so. For a few years supreme cort ruling stood that made legal compelling people to recite The Plege against their will.
If the matter were such a trifle, after over 50 years why did fundamentalist christians bothered to insert God into the plege?

Kind of silly appeal to "stand united" in the face of enemy attacks and then immediately exclude a lot of people who do not share your religious views.

miko

CH3 · « **Reply #69 on:** June 27, 2002, 09:38:17 AM »

They were Deists Eagler, look it up if you don't know what it means. What you said above isn't that far off though. You may even be one yourself.

Separation of church and state is something of immense value. Shame you let your reactionary inclinations keep you from appreciating it

Eagler · « **Reply #70 on:** June 27, 2002, 09:50:56 AM »

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Originally posted by CH3
They were Deists Eagler, look it up if you don't know what it means. What you said above isn't that far off though. You may even be one yourself.

Separation of church and state is something of immense value. Shame you let your reactionary inclinations keep you from appreciating it

They were Dentists?

I feel its all part of a much bigger plan.
As stated by a few here, it causes less harm to those who don't "believe" to those that do. Tell the ones that don't like it to mumble thru those two words if they feel they'd be lying if they spoke them

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #71 on:** June 27, 2002, 09:56:30 AM »

"seperation of church and state"

Clear as a f'in spring day on top of the rockies.
-SW

Eagler · « **Reply #72 on:** June 27, 2002, 10:01:24 AM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
"seperation of church and state"

Clear as a f'in spring day on top of the rockies.
-SW

You can have "God" without "church"

I do believe they were refering to the Church of England and the policies there when they wrote those words

midnight Target · « **Reply #73 on:** June 27, 2002, 10:02:10 AM »

Asatru - Modern day worship of the Norse gods and goddesses.

Celtic Reconstruction/Restoration - Modern day worship of Celtic gods and goddesses.

Demonolatry - Demonolatry is the practice of calling on elemental/energy forces known as Demons (lesser gods, divine intelligences, wise entities) to aid in ritual magick and/or prayer.

Dianic Wicca

Hinduism

Modern Druidism - Druidism is a Celtic inspired path for seekers of knowledge and Truth. It encourages poetic inspiration, spiritual discipline, scholarship and devotion to the Gods, the Tribe, Earth, Sea, and Sky.

Religion Romana - Modern day worship of the ancient Roman gods and goddesses.

Skertru - Modern day worship of the Norse gods and goddesses.

All Religions that are protected by our Bill of Rights, and ignored by Pledging to "One Nation Under God", because all are polytheistic.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #74 on:** June 27, 2002, 10:02:48 AM »

They were referring to state sponsored religion. I assume this translate to Federal these days, since back in those times states were independent on one another.
-SW