Whats the stats of a FW190-A5?

[funked]

How many combat kills did Capt. Brown have again?


 

[Pongo]

Nine get in or get out spit bashing is not a observer sport!

Didnt capt brown shoot down the Red Baron?
I would rather hear his opinion on Fokkers then fock wulfs....

[funked]

The Fokker is undermodeled!

[Ripsnort]

Pass some popcorn, getting hungry here at work.  

[Maniac]

Udie stated in an previous post that he outturned an spit in the current AH 190 on the deck and came out as the vinner.

Does that mean that the current 190 in AH out turns the spit?  

<ducks and runs>



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[funked]

Yes the 190 is overmodeled!  LOL!

If historical anectdotes have problems with contradictions, think about AH anectdotes!  MY GOD!  ROFL

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[ygsmilo]

dem fokkers in dem fokee wullfffs are tufff.

(old joke related to me from my father-in-law  P-51 driver ETO, 3 kills, P-80 driver Korea, shot down by flak, RF-101 driver Vietnam, unarmed and unafraid. Someday I will tell you the stories of the flying telephone poles.

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Milo

"A MiG on your 6 is better than no MiG at all"

II/JG2 "Richthofen"

[lazs]

jekyl... Didn't get banned.... Didn't have a pouty snit fit and leave either tho...  Like the cannon Hog but both hooly and I find we can get higher kill sorties with the D model.

Eric Brown asside.... How can an allmost 9000 lb A4 or 5 with it's wussy little 14 cylinder radial that barely wheezes out 1700 hp, climb with a Spit 5 much less a 9?   I have never seen a figure of over 3600fpm (the highest) climb for a 190A... Most give about 3400 fpm with climb rate dropping off dramatically after about 5k...  The inferior and outdated LW superchargers just compound the problem past 20k.

The 190A has 5.0lbs per hp with a fuel load of 140 gallons (8500 lbs and 1700 hp)

The Corsair 1D with 140 gallons of fuel produces 5.0 lbs per hp. (11300 lbs and 2250 hp.)..

So.... The Corsair with 140 gallons of fuel should outclimb a Spit 9 too?  

The D9?  Sure!  Make sure you add the latter P47's and -4 Hog and Spit 14 etc. at the same time tho.   But then of course you would run into the old "to RPS or not to RPS" bugaboo...

Face it... In early '42 the 190A was a fantastic aircraft but by early '43 it was not only matched but beginning to get more than a little long in the tooth.   On the Russian front 190 pilots were told not to engage Russian fighters.

Oh... anyone care to guess why the A5 was lengthened over the A4?   Hint.... It's one reason why the LW thot rear view mirors were useless.
lazs

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[RAM]

 

Originally posted by lazs:
  On the Russian front 190 pilots were told not to engage Russian fighters.

Oh yes...F and G 190s were told not to go with russian fighters...why? because they were Jabos  

Heh...some history, man...some history

[Jekyll]

 

How many combat kills did Capt. Brown have again?

How many REAL Fw190A-3s, A-4s, A-5s, D-9's, Me 262s, Spitfire Vs, Spitfire IXs, Spitfire XIV's, P-51Bs, P-51D,s and Me109Gs have YOU flown funked?

Just couldn't resist  

[funked]

 

[LLv34 Nattulv]

lazs : the fighters they were told to avoid was Yaks with no oilcooler under the nose, ie Yak-3 (and mayby Yak-9U?)

Maximum climb for a FW190A i have seen is 4100 ft/m. But if its true i dont know.    
Anyway it had good zoom climb and was faster then the Spitfire V.

Once the Spitfire LF IX got into service (mid 43) the FW190A was starting to lag behind performancewise. Befor that it had equal performance to the Spitfire IX and better then the Spitfire V. (exept of course turning circle)
RAF pilots reported the FW's doing Upward charlies alongside their Spitfire V formations and the RAF could not do a thing to stop it. Imagine what that does to moral in a unit.

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[Udie]

Ok that's it!!!!!!!!!!!

I go away for a bathroom brake and when I get back SOMEBODY ATE MY POPCORN!!!!!!!!!!

 Who the heck was it?  Funked was it you?  Give it back please. PLEASE give it back!

 Ok I'll appologise for sneaking up on you in my 190A8 and shooting you down from 250 yrds behind your dead 6.

 (VBG)

 now can I have my popcorn back pls?

 

Udie

[funked]

Udie you can have your popcorn back when I'm "done" with it.  

Lazs, I have a document from Wright Field indicating 4000 fpm maximum, so neener neener neener.  

[Jekyll]

 

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How many combat kills did Capt. Brown have again?
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Actually, this brings up an interesting point.  There's varying degrees of reliability for 'anecdotal' evidence.

What do you consider the more reliable as to an aircraft's performance?

Combat reports, where we know nothing about relative energy states, speeds, or whether the enemy aircraft was already damaged?

Flight test reports (a la Eric Brown) which compare the various qualities of the aircraft?

I know which I would regardd as more reliable, and for that reason it makes no damn difference to me whether Brown shot down 500 aircraft, or none at all