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Offline sling322

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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2002, 10:12:34 PM »
Lets go back to my point Steven.....who is forcing these kids to say anything?  Nobody forces them to recite the pledge.  If you dont want to say it, you dont say it.

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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2002, 10:42:03 PM »
But... they WANT to say it... and not a different version than everyone else. Just one that does not reference God.
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Should we remove "God" from this too?
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2002, 01:43:33 AM »
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Nobody forces them to recite the pledge. If you dont want to say it, you dont say it.

Sling, I don't believe anyone is forced to pledging allegiance in the schools.  This has no bearing whatsoever on whether "God" is appropriate in the pledge and in our schools and government.

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why does the congress open each session with a prayer, dosen't that offend the atheists ??

John, certainly it would.  

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the military is part of the govt , why do they have chaplians??

John, that's easy because the military chooses to provide basic personal needs.

I don't know why so many people have a problem with keeping their spiritual beliefs private in their homes and churches.

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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2002, 11:57:54 AM »
This debate is pretty heated, but for a lighter take that should make both sides laugh . . .

http://www.satirewire.com/news/june02/pledge.shtml

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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2002, 04:04:40 PM »
Oedipus: Why should any American citizen (not in public office, court or military) be required to say any oath or pledge.  That itself is a violation of one of the Constitutions cornerstones; freedom of speech. :)
When you freedom of speech conflicts with limitation of thought (only rabid religious patriotic thinking allowed), which do you think takes precedence.

sling322: If you had beliefs religious or otherwise that made you feel like you didnt need to say it, you didnt have to. You just kinda stood there and didnt say nothing.
 Accordig to the law, children are not capable of making decisions - hence they cannot possibly give consent to sex, vote, buy alcohol, tobacco, drive vehicles, etc.

 if these folks have such strong anti-pledge of allegiance beliefs, then why are they letting a little peer pressure force them into reciting something that they dont want to recite?
 Not anti-allegiance, just anti-religion. Anyway, we do have resistance to peer pressure, the children do not - that is why they are children. It's not just the size difference, you know...

 miko