Author Topic: Another "guess this one" (Read 280 times)

Klasse · « **on:** July 02, 2002, 05:09:59 AM »

Easy as always

Klasse · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2002, 05:33:43 AM »

Oh,Maybe a picture too.

Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2002, 05:45:01 AM »

Curtiss "Hawk" Model75/Y1P-36

KG45 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2002, 10:05:04 AM »

according to WWIIOL, this is the only fighter the french ever had.

i guess they forgot about the Dewoitine D 520

Staga · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2002, 11:43:03 AM »

IIRC they should be glad they got a Hawk model which was not in use in BoF (high octane fuel) instead that Dewoitine.

In RL(tm) Hispano-Suiza Y-12 engine didn't have enough power to fight with Me's and Hispano HS-404 cannon was junk.
Finns had MS.406 fighters wich had same cannon and those were ripped away and mg151/20 cannons or 12,7 mm ShVaK MGs installed instead.
Morane-Saulnier 406/410 had also same engine with D.520 thought earlier sub-type. There were also reason why Finns were converting their Moranes to use Russian Klimov M105P engine.

btw Finns couldn't ever achieve top-speeds French gave to MS406. Factory claims were.. ehmm.. optimistic

julle · « **Reply #5 on:** July 02, 2002, 12:08:17 PM »

http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/hawk75.html

http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/morane.html

julle

Fishu · « **Reply #6 on:** July 02, 2002, 12:44:39 PM »

Staga,

I read a book of Ms406 and it told that there were moranes serving in FAF with hispano cannons.
Pilots told it was very powerful, more than MG151/20, but also very unreliable.
"usually not working when you needed it most"
This is far fetched, but I *think* I read about changing MG weapons to higher caliber with one reason being this unreliability.

whgates3 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2002, 02:31:30 PM »

The 1st experimental (experiments were done in real Battle of Britan combat) Spitfires to have the 20mm Hispano cannons installed had a lot of trouble with gun stoppages, which was apparently due to the way the 20mm guns were installed in the wings...