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Offline muffdvr

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« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2003, 12:27:26 AM »
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It's not a question about it being there.  Plenty of books say it is there, but I can't make something without knowing what it's supposed to look like.  It seems that this particular gun position was rarely used.  I believe some planes didn't use them at all.  Given it's position, it may have been almost useless.
  Some models depending on what company are very deturmand to get ther models very acurate.  Know do you only do the art on planes or on all of the vehicles?  I do now the Ostwind has an error with the top turret.  The side on the turret around the 20mm cannon are able to open flat, for better vision.



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« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2003, 12:42:29 AM »
New to this so bear with me.  Not sure on how to send images from dektop.

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« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2003, 01:03:13 AM »
From the interior pic posted in this thread, looks like the A-20's ventral gun art could borrow that for the TBM, but with a wider field of fire .  Too bad we couldnt roll a few grenades or depth charges/air mines out as well :)

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« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2003, 08:46:14 PM »
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Some models depending on what company are very deturmand to get ther models very acurate.  Know do you only do the art on planes or on all of the vehicles?  I do now the Ostwind has an error with the top turret.  The side on the turret around the 20mm cannon are able to open flat, for better vision.


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The "Möbelwagen" had a square, nonrotating superstructure around the 37mm AA gun that was lowered to provide a fighting platform:



The "Ostwind" had a hexagonal rotating turret that completely enclosed (except for the top, which was open) the 37mm AA gun; this allowed the gun to be fired without exposing the gun crew to enemy fire:


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« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2004, 12:47:01 PM »
Don't know if you guys noticed it, but that A20 that was restored was listed as having 9 .50's.

Didn't say what specifically, but you deduce that it's 6 Nose mounts, 2 in the turret, and that leaves one left.
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« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2004, 03:15:39 PM »
I read they will be updating the old planes.  Please remember the a20g's gun.
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« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2004, 03:44:06 PM »
A-20 ventral gun as modelled in PF...



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« Reply #67 on: October 26, 2004, 09:54:44 AM »
What is PF?  That's a great image though.

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« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2004, 11:06:31 AM »
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What is PF?  That's a great image though.


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« Reply #69 on: October 26, 2004, 12:35:43 PM »
The book I have says .

Defensive armament

Dorsal and ventral gun posistions were available in most Havocs/Bostons, though the armament fitted varied considerably.
French DB-7s were able to carry a single 0.295-in (7.5-mm) machune gun on a flexible mount in both positions.

The DB-7A followed the same pattern, though the original French specifications called for a single gun to be mounted in the rear of each of the aircraft's engine nacelles, for rearward defence!

American aircraft, starting with the A-20, had a pair of flexible 0.3-in (7.62-mm) machine guns in the open dorsal position and a single 0.3-in (7.62-mm) gun in the ventral position.

In the A-20B the twin '30-calibers' were replaced by a single 0.5-in (12.7-mm) gun, this arrangement remained standard until the 751st A-20G was completed.

This and subsequent aircraft had a Martin dorsal turret , with 'twin 50s' installed

Taken word for word from

Aircraft Anatomy of World War II
Technical Drawings of Key Aircfaft 1939-1945

General Editors: Paul Eden and Soph Moeng

Hope some find it helpful

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« Reply #70 on: October 26, 2004, 04:07:05 PM »
To heck with the ventral gun. I want the 4 x 20 MM Hispanos!!

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« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2004, 11:42:05 AM »
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To heck with the ventral gun. I want the 4 x 20 MM Hispanos!!


Yeah, that would be pretty handy (since AH doesnt model the guns jamming up).