Author Topic: A-20G missing a gun? (Read 1654 times)

senna · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2002, 04:06:07 PM »

Hum, pulls out ERTL 1/48 A20 Havoc kit, takes a look. Nope no ventral guns. Looks at cutaway internal view of A20 in "American Warplanes" book, nope not in there either.

Hate to kill this thread but I dont think the ventral gun was factory installed. Might have been a field thing done by some A20 squadrons. I've never heard of it though.

Widewing · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2002, 04:16:08 PM »

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Originally posted by senna
Hum, pulls out ERTL 1/48 A20 Havoc kit, takes a look. Nope no ventral guns. Looks at cutaway internal view of A20 in "American Warplanes" book, nope not in there either.

Hate to kill this thread but I dont think the ventral gun was factory installed. Might have been a field thing done by some A20 squadrons. I've never heard of it though.

I would not be caught dead using a model kit as a reference.... I have the same kit and I can tell you without reservation that does not represent an "as delivered" A-20 from the factory.

Some aircraft were modified in the field to remove the gun position. However, all A-20G models were delivered with the gun in place.

When I get home this evening, I'll pull out my reference materials and see if I can get to the bottom of the question.

My regards,

Widewing

Superfly · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2002, 04:43:32 PM »

It's not a question about it being there. Plenty of books say it is there, but I can't make something without knowing what it's supposed to look like. It seems that this particular gun position was rarely used. I believe some planes didn't use them at all. Given it's position, it may have been almost useless.

senna · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2002, 05:39:09 PM »

Oops, LOL

Kieran · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2002, 07:44:35 PM »

Actually, my references were for Rram, who seemed to need verification. I knew the position was supposed to be there, but it is no biggie one way or the other to me.

Innominate · « **Reply #20 on:** July 16, 2002, 12:19:25 PM »

Does this help?

Nefarious · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2002, 12:46:04 PM »

I imagine that this gun would be operated by the same guy who operates the twin 50's on the dorsal? guns...Making it very hard to know when to jump down there and use it.

If they did have a seperate gunner for this posistion With that limited amount of view...I'd be scared as hell looking through there with fighters everywhere.

Innominate · « **Reply #22 on:** July 16, 2002, 12:57:07 PM »

It was operated by the navigator, poor guy had to sit inside that thing. A-20G has a crew of three.

Seeing as it points at the angle people like to attack a-20's from in AH, I can't see it being COMPLETLY useless.

Innominate · « **Reply #23 on:** September 24, 2002, 05:12:24 AM »

It's not an A-20G, but it is a photo of the existance of a ventral gun on the a-20's.

Wilbus · « **Reply #24 on:** September 24, 2002, 06:43:36 AM »

Ju88-A4 is missing a gun too you know

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #25 on:** September 24, 2002, 07:52:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Ju88-A4 is missing a gun too you know

So why should anyone care?

Sikboy · « **Reply #26 on:** September 24, 2002, 06:42:12 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So why should anyone care?

Because it's fun to watch your lip curl when you cry

-Sikboy

brady · « **Reply #27 on:** September 24, 2002, 06:55:38 PM »

I often woundered about this, I recall having read about it too, I just asumed it was ot on the models we had included in AH, I nead to question more....hmmmmmm:)

Ya It would be very usefull, that is the best way to atak an A20 from the rear underneath, be nice to have realy.

Innominate · « **Reply #28 on:** September 24, 2002, 07:22:14 PM »

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Originally posted by brady
I often woundered about this, I recall having read about it too, I just asumed it was ot on the models we had included in AH, I nead to question more....hmmmmmm:)

Ya It would be very usefull, that is the best way to atak an A20 from the rear underneath, be nice to have realy.

Some were removed in the field I believe.
But AFAIK all a-20G's shipped with .50 mg's mounted in the tunnel.

Like superfly said, they may not have been all that usefull, but, neither are the guns on the TBM.

brady · « **Reply #29 on:** September 24, 2002, 08:01:13 PM »

Nore the ones on the AR 234, wait all it neads is a sight:)