Author Topic: Gf4 Ti4200: Cheap and powerfull (Read 750 times)

Staga · « **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2002, 05:22:21 AM »

If there's still someone who hasn't use Coolbits...
1) Extract Nvidia.reg to your computer
2) Double click it -> Add to registry
3) Right click desktop, select properties etc

bloom25 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2002, 12:01:44 PM »

Well, at least I can read the "ok" part of that. Is it a requirement in Finish to have "aa" or "uu" in all your words?

I really like "kellotaajuus". (Sounds like a fruit juice.

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My GeForce 4 Ti 4200 64 MB card at stock clock speeds gave me a 9460. I haven't bumped up the memory and core clocks yet. I did raise the CPU FSB to 136 MHz, giving me an XP 1947+ according to the bios (1636 MHz true clockspeed). That gave me a 9550. I think I can break 10000 easy by going to newer drivers, upping the FSB a little more, and overclocking the video card.

bloom25 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 08, 2002, 01:45:18 AM »

Well, this is what I've managed so far. (286 MHz core, 584 MHz RAM - I haven't tried higher yet.)

3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name   My Benchmark
Description
Registration Name
Registration Key
3DMark Version   300

DISPLAY
Platform   NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
CPU Optimization   D3D Pure Hardware T&L
Width   1024
Height   768
Depth   32 bit
Z-Buffering   24 bit
Texture Format   Compressed
Buffering   Double
Refresh Rate   60 Hz
FSAA Mode   None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens   Yes
Continuous Benchmark   No
Benchmark Run Count   1
Demo Sounds Enabled   Yes
Continuous Demo   No
Game Sound Effects Enabled   Yes
Game Music Enabled   Yes
Game Detail Level   Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score   10210
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail   160.9 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail   53.8 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail   180.5 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail   106.5 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail   140.3 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail   64.0 fps
Game 4 - Nature   45.4 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)   1010.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)   2216.3 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)   47.9 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)   12.1 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping   146.3 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping   138.1 fps
Vertex Shader   79.1 fps
Pixel Shader   113.3 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader   87.8 fps
Point Sprites   29.8 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version   2.2
Installation ID   0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer   AMD
Family   AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1900+
Internal Clock   1.62 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum   1.62 GHz
External Clock   138 MHz
Socket Designation   SOCKET A
Type   Central
Upgrade
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version   Model 6, Stepping 2
CPUID   0x00000662

Staga · « **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2002, 03:14:46 AM »

Boring day @ work...

Staga · « **Reply #19 on:** August 08, 2002, 12:11:59 PM »

Just tested with Nvidia's new 30.82 drivers: 8698 3D-marks.

Better points in bump-mappings and vertex- and pixel shaders but about everything else either are same or worse.

bloom25 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 08, 2002, 06:44:29 PM »

I'm using 30.82 drivers as well and DX 8.1b. I'm wondering why my nature test was so slow???

My CPU is being reported too low though. It's running at 1660 MHz.

bloom25 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 08, 2002, 07:14:43 PM »

Ok, here's core at 300 MHz memory at 600 MHz. I don't know if I dare go higher:

3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name   My Benchmark
Description
Registration Name
Registration Key
3DMark Version   300

DISPLAY
Platform   NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
CPU Optimization   D3D Pure Hardware T&L
Width   1024
Height   768
Depth   32 bit
Z-Buffering   24 bit
Texture Format   Compressed
Buffering   Double
Refresh Rate   60 Hz
FSAA Mode   None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens   No
Continuous Benchmark   No
Benchmark Run Count   1
Demo Sounds Enabled   Yes
Continuous Demo   No
Game Sound Effects Enabled   Yes
Game Music Enabled   Yes
Game Detail Level   Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score   10585
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail   165.0 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail   53.8 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail   184.2 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail   109.7 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail   140.5 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail   63.9 fps
Game 4 - Nature   57.1 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)   1025.1 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)   2290.1 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)   49.6 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)   12.6 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping   150.8 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping   158.4 fps
Vertex Shader   82.1 fps
Pixel Shader   122.5 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader   90.6 fps
Point Sprites   25.4 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version   2.2
Installation ID   0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer   AMD
Family   AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1900+
Internal Clock   1.62 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum   1.62 GHz
External Clock   138 MHz
Socket Designation   SOCKET A
Type   Central
Upgrade
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version   Model 6, Stepping 2
CPUID   0x00000662

bloom25 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 08, 2002, 07:18:18 PM »

Oh, I have 512 MB of DDR PC2100 ram running at CAS 2.5. (Switched to 2.5 to get to 138 MHz FSB, though I didn't actually try at 2.0.)

bloom25 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 09, 2002, 12:11:47 AM »

Without overclocking the CPU any more, this is all I can manage without graphical artifacts:

3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name   My Benchmark
Description
Registration Name
Registration Key
3DMark Version   300

DISPLAY
Platform   NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
CPU Optimization   D3D Pure Hardware T&L
Width   1024
Height   768
Depth   32 bit
Z-Buffering   24 bit
Texture Format   Compressed
Buffering   Double
Refresh Rate   60 Hz
FSAA Mode   None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens   No
Continuous Benchmark   No
Benchmark Run Count   1
Demo Sounds Enabled   Yes
Continuous Demo   No
Game Sound Effects Enabled   Yes
Game Music Enabled   Yes
Game Detail Level   Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score   10617
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail   165.6 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail   53.9 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail   185.5 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail   110.3 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail   140.2 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail   63.8 fps
Game 4 - Nature   57.2 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)   1030.3 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)   2310.2 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)   49.9 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)   12.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping   151.5 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping   159.3 fps
Vertex Shader   82.6 fps
Pixel Shader   123.3 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader   91.1 fps
Point Sprites   25.7 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version   2.2
Installation ID   0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer   AMD
Family   AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1900+
Internal Clock   1.62 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum   1.62 GHz
External Clock   138 MHz
Socket Designation   SOCKET A
Type   Central
Upgrade
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version   Model 6, Stepping 2
CPUID   0x00000662

This was at core 303.8 MHz Memory at 594.0 MHz. For some reason Rivatuner would not let me lock in at 600 MHz memory with the core above 300, the next option up was 621 MHz. That gave me graphical artifacts.

In case you guys wanted my complete system specs they are:

Asus A7N266-C motherboard bios 1.001E, 1.05 Official nVidia chipset drivers
Athlon XP 1900+ overclocked to 1660 MHz (bios says XP 1990+)
MSI GeForce 4 Ti 4200 64 MB using official nVidia 30.82 drivers
512 MB Kingston DDR PC2100 ram (2 x 256 MB sticks)
IBM 75GXP 45 GB HD
Win 2k SP 3 (SP 2 is better btw, SP 3 fails to detect my external modem on occasion)
Direct X 8.1b
Maximum stable overclock on video card is 303.8 MHz core and 594.0 MHz memory

Staga · « **Reply #24 on:** August 09, 2002, 02:37:47 AM »

I noticed core300/mem600 is highest my card can go without different anomalities in screen.
I did try 305/610 but there were few artifacts visible sometimes.

LePaul · « **Reply #25 on:** August 09, 2002, 09:44:42 AM »

When I overclocked my GeForce 4 4600, at 325mhz, 3DMark would lock up on the high-detail car chase. Hard lockup. If I went down slightly to 322mhz, it was fine. RAM is running at 702mhz.

While Im intrigued how well that 4200 is matching my 4600, I confess to not really trying all the clocking and tweaks I could. Namely because I like my machine a lot and dont wanna fry it

I'll have to try bring some of the advanced settings off Best Image to Best Performance and see if I can dust Bloom

Either way, Jedi Knight and Soldier of Fortune look great with every detail cranked to the max

bloom25 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 09, 2002, 04:42:36 PM »

I'm really amazed myself how well my "cheap" video card did. I think with a faster driver set (30.30s are supposed to be faster) and some RAM timing tweaks on my system ram I could get close to 11000. I don't plan on trying it though, stability means a lot to me and I can't afford to compromise that trying to get a totally unnoticible performance increase.

bloom25 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 09, 2002, 09:14:58 PM »

Ok, I did one more run with the CPU FSB at 140 MHz, which surprisingly did not improve things much. It looks like the card is now the limiting factor. (The system is totally stable at 140 MHz FSB, at under full load running 46C, which is good enough.)

The bios reports my chip as an XP 2012+ now.

I think only newer drivers or additional FSB overclocking is going to raise the score any higher. (I don't plan on going above 140 though, the next step up on my system is 143 MHz.)

3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name   My Benchmark
Description
Registration Name
Registration Key
3DMark Version   300

DISPLAY
Platform   NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
CPU Optimization   D3D Pure Hardware T&L
Width   1024
Height   768
Depth   32 bit
Z-Buffering   24 bit
Texture Format   Compressed
Buffering   Double
Refresh Rate   60 Hz
FSAA Mode   None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens   No
Continuous Benchmark   No
Benchmark Run Count   1
Demo Sounds Enabled   Yes
Continuous Demo   No
Game Sound Effects Enabled   Yes
Game Music Enabled   Yes
Game Detail Level   Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score   10644
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail   165.1 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail   54.7 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail   185.9 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail   109.8 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail   141.2 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail   64.4 fps
Game 4 - Nature   57.2 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)   1030.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)   2306.5 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)   50.1 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)   12.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping   151.8 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping   159.1 fps
Vertex Shader   81.7 fps
Pixel Shader   123.4 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader   91.2 fps
Point Sprites   25.7 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version   2.2
Installation ID   0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer   AMD
Family   AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1900+
Internal Clock   1.64 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum   1.64 GHz
External Clock   140 MHz
Socket Designation   SOCKET A
Type   Central
Upgrade
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version   Model 6, Stepping 2
CPUID   0x00000662

aknimitz · « **Reply #28 on:** August 11, 2002, 09:10:16 PM »

Zig, Torque has been around for a while now. His handle escapes my memory though ... oh wait, its knuckles.

Nim