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Offline Udie

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« on: July 12, 2002, 05:47:16 PM »
.... you're like me and think there's going to be a big nasty worst to happen yet world war within the next 2 or 3 years?

 I look at history at what happened before both world wars and it's the same type of multi national political B.S.  that's been going on for the past few years.   When it happens I hope the Russians are on our side again.  I hope the only enemies are China, the Arabs, Iran and North Korea.

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2002, 05:49:35 PM »
You mean sort of like the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s but not nearly as bad?

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2002, 05:50:39 PM »
Hope that China is an enemy?

Can't share that hope. In a war against China there will be no winner, IMHO.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2002, 06:09:32 PM »
Complacency will be your biggest enemy. Why arent the Romans, the Mongols, The Spanish, the Dutch, Napolean and the Brits still ruling the world?

All of them were Super Powers once. Many ruling more of the world than the US has control or allegiances with now.  At this time in our history, the US is the greatest Military Power on earth but what would it take to bring them down?

Bad Foriegn Policy or a recession perhaps. Internal strife?  History tells us that Super Powers have a limited lifespan with War or other means deciding on new World Leaders.  Are you that complacent that you would ask for War against a Country the size of China and risk the Arabic Countries who in my opinion cannot be trusted anyway, changing allegiances for religious or cultural reasons?

The US is powerful but only as powerful as its alliances. It will give someone a huge kick in the prettythang and a bloody nose but short of including itself in self annhilation, it cant take on the world by itself.  Remember Vietnam?  Many reasons, most of which cannot be anticipated in the hectic whirlpool of War could change the tide of victory.  Germany gave it a shot and lost.

Your patriotism is to be admired but dont lace it with complacent stupitidy or it may well be your downfall.  At somepoint in the future, however far ahead, there is going to be another all powerful entity on this planet.  10 years, 100 or 1000, it will come.

Perhaps next it will be Chinas turn.

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2002, 06:13:55 PM »
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 I hope the only enemies are China, the Arabs, Iran and North Korea.


I'm pretty sure France will be against you too... for some reason they hate you since you liberated them in 44.

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2002, 06:18:01 PM »
No understanding the French. :D
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Offline Corwin

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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2002, 06:19:41 PM »
I recently read a book called The Fourth Turning which I highly recommend.  It's not a long haired doom mongers tome.  It's well written and insightful and makes an interesting and compelling argument about how history repeats itself as it is all tied up in the cycle of human existence.  It was written in 1999 and while by no means intended to be apocryphal about 9/11/2001 it does speak to what an nation goes through in a time of great crisis.  The 1st 25 pages can be perused for free on amazon.  If you have a minute,  give it a browse.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0767900464/glance/103-4347811-2849437#product-details

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2002, 06:24:10 PM »
Sorry..
but where are the parralels with 1914 and 1939? I dont think you supported that contention.

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2002, 06:27:00 PM »
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Perhaps next it will be Chinas turn.

Nah, Im pretty sure it is Swedens turn.

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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2002, 06:45:23 PM »
If the USA invades Iraq "unprovoked",there will be a big nasty.

I vote no big nasty in next 3 years.
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2002, 01:39:24 AM »
The only possible World War is a nuclear one.

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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2002, 04:06:13 AM »
The way the last world war ended pretty much guaranteed that there wont be a WW3. We have THE BOMB, and we have proven that we are crazy enough to use it. Other nations are well aware of this. As long as we never push one of them into a "no choice" situation, its unlikely that anyone wants to commit suicide nationally.

  I have seen heart felt comments about the heavy burden that the president has, being followed around by the "football".  Bull toejam.  We the people have the burden.  It is up to us to make sure we don't put some fruitcake in the white house, who is going to push some country to that "no choice" point.

  There will always be another Caesar wannabe around the next bend. And we will have to help the other free nations knock his dick in the dirt. But it wont take a world war for that.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2002, 07:04:37 AM »
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The US is powerful but only as powerful as its alliances.



If they ever stop cooperating, we will enslave them!

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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2002, 07:25:22 AM »
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If they ever stop cooperating, we will enslave them!


So long as you dont make our kids listen to Rap music, wear baggy blue jeans and wear their baseball caps backwards.

..WAIT !!


NNNOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo  !!!

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2002, 07:31:51 AM »
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If the USA invades Iraq "unprovoked",there will be a big nasty.


Whew....... at least "provoked" is OK then?  :D

No problemo.  :D
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