Author Topic: Crude Language Online (Read 2030 times)

Shuckins · « **Reply #60 on:** July 14, 2002, 09:09:44 PM »

If you want to curse and use the ef word or others that are even worse when with your friends, that's your business.

You have no right to do so in public or online where others have no choice but to listen to you. But I suppose the temptation to spout off in front of a captive audience is too great for some to resist.

Oxymoron seen at the start of an R-rated movie: Adult Language.

Regards, Shuckins

RightF00T · « **Reply #61 on:** July 14, 2002, 09:12:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Gman
Heck, guys like Leftfoot say WTF, or OMG, or BS every time they get shot down nearly, it's virtually a trademark of the more colorfull guys in the arena, but we ALL KNOW what these abbreviations mean. Even Hitech's squad name could fall into this category. Where is the line drawn? Only at attempts to circumvent the chat censor, or will abbreviations count soon as well.

Excuse me?

MugZ · « **Reply #62 on:** July 14, 2002, 10:04:02 PM »

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Originally posted by ArceBandit at 6
You Americans cant use bad launguage the way your suposed to ,in Ireland we use it like this EG.
get the f**k out of my way.
what the f**k are u at.
what the f**k did u call me.
its f**ked eg (broken).
im f**ked eg (tired).
f**k eg (shock).
f**k it anyway.
oh f**k.
We dont say f**k you, or f**k off.
look i,ve attached a picture to cut the tension

This is exactly what we are talking about goof ball.

ZeroPing · « **Reply #63 on:** July 14, 2002, 10:19:20 PM »

Any one get that message from the unknow god?
"Zeroping be careful"
AH!!!!!!!! well use that more often.. im sure people will be more carefull (as u see above) when they get this message, i know this would be a pain in the bellybutton to do every time some one says "fuc" "wtf" "prettythang" and any other words that makes you people uncomfortable, or just squelch 1

Blue Mako · « **Reply #64 on:** July 14, 2002, 10:45:11 PM »

I do not use profane language and while I try not to get offended if someone uses it around me I do prefer it if they don't.

Common courtesy implies that if someone is uncomfortable with the way you behave, you try to behave differently. Continually cursing on channel 1 is a lack of common courtesy, pure and simple.

Turbot · « **Reply #65 on:** July 14, 2002, 11:33:50 PM »

This thread floats to the top still.

Guys it's simple. Ah isn't here to bottle feed you, the responsibilty for what comes from your speakers and text falls on - guess who? - you. Out of the 50 Britnay spears getting _f_d by whomever video emails you get every day (which is where most of you poor freaks get viruses on your AOL machines btw) - when did it become HiTech's job to police thing?

It ain't

Do I wish it was? Do I wish they had someone who's only function was to police the rediculous nonsense of pre- teenagers? This is just not reasonable.

Hence The squelch command was invented.

I do however wish very much for a persistent squelch list. In this, and this alone, I sing the same song.

Vulcan · « **Reply #66 on:** July 15, 2002, 05:59:15 AM »

Some language has no place here... but where do you draw the line? I got warned for fediddleers, now fediddleers is not a 'sub' of the 'ef' word, it is a seperately recognised word (refer Father Ted for various definitions and uses).

Not only that but in NZ its accepted 'daytime' language by the NZ Broadcasting Standards Authority.

Do implied explitives count?

As someone rightly pointed out - FUBAR, WTF, etc are all implied.

What about banana? Do we ban him? It may not be a common term in the US but in the UK, Ireland, Scotland, NZ, Australia etc its a very 'specific' term.

Theres a very clear need to limit some language. Theres also a very clear need for some people to BUTT out. If you tell someone else how to talk, expect a backlash. If you tell someone else to limit their language AND have the authority of HTC then fair enough.

The squelch command was implemented for a reason. If you do not have the powers invested in you by Hitech then use squelch.

Saintaw · « **Reply #67 on:** July 15, 2002, 06:47:26 AM »

Orel is currently teaching me to curse in czeck... but I try to keep it on Squad channel

An occational "wtf" doesn't bother me (hey, I say it too sometimes!), but some poeple just keep going on for some reason...

I vote for "Rude" & his bro "Vulgar" to be moderators

AKcurly · « **Reply #68 on:** July 15, 2002, 07:15:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
Some language has no place here... but where do you draw the line? I got warned for fediddleers, now fediddleers is not a 'sub' of the 'ef' word, it is a seperately recognised word (refer Father Ted for various definitions and uses).
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Theres a very clear need to limit some language. Theres also a very clear need for some people to BUTT out. If you tell someone else how to talk, expect a backlash. If you tell someone else to limit their language AND have the authority of HTC then fair enough.

The squelch command was implemented for a reason. If you do not have the powers invested in you by Hitech then use squelch.

Vulcan, as I see it, the problem isn't profanity, it's disruptive behavior. Most of us don't care if someone types "WTF" when he experiences something inexplicable. But, if WTF is followed by 5 minutes of whining and complaining on channels 1/2, then it's disruptive.

It's a judgement call, one that most mature adults can easily make.

curly

Raubvogel · « **Reply #69 on:** July 15, 2002, 07:28:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Voss

Just so you know, I roll film on every sortie. AHVoice is captured along with the film. I have, on two occasions, had my films ruined by you.

Good lord, get a life

I'd have no problem with some arena moderator type folks to squash the irritating banter. Heck, I'd probably get my share of warnings

Self-policing is fine...but telling someone who pays the same fees as you how to act online might not illicit the response you want. Just my 2 pfennig

lazs2 · « **Reply #70 on:** July 15, 2002, 08:24:15 AM »

Well... if you can't make those remarks then what is the fun in being a non religious white male who lives in America?
lazs

"Originally posted by lazs2
racial/cultural/religious/sexist insults are the best kind. It is allways someone who isn't of the racial/cultural/religious/sex who is the one who get's "insulted". self rightious little dicks IMO. Nice to get em out in the open.
lazs
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I might not be of the racial/cultural/religious/sex that is being harassed over Channel 1. But If I read something that is truly wrong and hateful, I will be insulted.

Maybe we need some Main Arena Moderators?

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CavemanJ · « **Reply #71 on:** July 15, 2002, 08:33:47 AM »

Actually Voss, it seems Pongo is more interested in trying to find a way to show you your over reaction than in trying to mount a defense for Wulf.

If I was online when this 'incident' happened I totally missed it, but from what I've read in this thread you need a valium brother. Maybe a few. Next thing ya know you'll be going ballistic over me calling someone a "freaking dweeb".

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So profanity on channel 1 is the new hot PC issue huh? I've seen alot more stuff disrupt channel 1 than profanity. Like a couple nights ago a couple freaking idiots engaged in political discussions. Got so bad that a few of my squaddies (including myself) squelched channel 1 because it was interferring with our ability to communicate. Yeah, I reckon it could use a little community self policing, but before ya go whippin out yer badges think a little.

Most of the times I've seen profanity become a disruptive issue is when a few people get offensive towards whomever they are trying to help "police". These folks trying to help actually cause the disruption because they lack tact in thier approach and they inevitably offend/piss off the 'offender'. This sets off back and forth exchanges between the interested parties until someone gets too tired of the exchange to continue it (5-30minutes) or a jerk.. erm 'monitor type' ends it for them with mutes. Usually whoever uttered the profanity is muted even though he wasn't the one who caused the disturbance (no disturbance if others hadna twisted his tail).

Give ya an example. I think it was sometime yesterday I let slip an expletive or two on channel 1. Voss promptly says something to me about it on channel 1. The manner used to deliver his message just totally torqued me off. As I am preparing a nice, acidic response to Voss about cleaning up his people skills before trying to help others, my 5yr old daughter comes running up and shoves a piece of paper in front of my face saying "Look daddy, I drew a picture of our family!" I forgot all about mr. man and his tactless ego trip, and continued on my merry way, happy as a clam, killing people as I came across them.

It's not just the folks who cuss on channel 1 who need to engage the brain before engaging the keyboard. All you 'good samaratan' types who want to help the community police itself need to be more vigilant about thinking before typing. You get standoff-ish, offensive, whatever when you ask someone to please knock if off and YOU start a disruption that never would have happened if you'd ignored the person.

Then there are some that just disrupt everything w/o any needed external stimuli. And, yes, I have fallen into this category a time or two, and I readily admit it. Sometimes nothing but a timeout (mute/eject/etc) will stop it. 'Course, when one of these gets going they're usually fed by folks goading them on into saying more/worse.

Course I guess there are a rare few who'll continue on even if you're tactful in asking them to knock it off. They'll do it just to irritate ya. Best thing for that is everyone ignore'em, don't give'em 6calls, and don't dive in to clear'em. Hopefully they'll get the message.

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On the monitors... so far as I know they're still around. Maybe they were all stripped of their power. Which would be a good thing, as that bunch needed some serious policing. Someone lets slip a 'roadkill' after an extremely intense fight and gets insta-muted. Now ya got someone pissed off and waiting on the timer to count down and go off. I know, been there and done it. Timer counted down, I could talk, and I let loose on channel 1. Was I being disruptive and deserving another mute or a .eject? Thinking back to the incident (cause it's been a pretty good while back), yes I did deserve a mute/boot. Did I get muted/booted? Nope, I guess because I wasn't using any profanity in my tirade.

Course, in some situations these monitors can't make a good, informed decision. Log in mid-tirade, can't scroll up the readio buffer in AH, so they've only got like 15lines of text (usually fast moving at that) to sort it out and hope they get the right person. I was a sysop on an irc net for 3years, and I'm an admin on another forum like this one, and it's not always easy to make the right call even when ya can go back and read everything that lead to an incident.

DamnedBuzzard · « **Reply #72 on:** July 15, 2002, 08:56:39 AM »

I swear, what a buncha namby pambies. Have you weenies forgotten that all you gotta do is squelch the offending party. Y'all remind me of a buncha old wimmin. The only thing missin so far is some lamer whinin about kids readin th text buffer over thier shoulder.

And yes voss you do aggravate the situation. Who appointed you language police around here?

HTC has the perfect answer already in place. No TOS cops, no officious little twerps with an axe to grind and powers to abuse. Every one of us has the ability to end anything we personally find offensive with just a few key strokes.

I never cuss on th text buffer but I do enjoy a bout of word warrior now and then and if I can drive my opponent to a frothing at th mouth expletive filled tirade then I ROFL and count a win. You do the same thing voss. The difference is I ain't whinin about it .

Grow up.

AvidMC · « **Reply #73 on:** July 15, 2002, 09:07:39 AM »

The language is really annoying but more annoying is the acute lack of creativity that it leads to. When you allow folks to get away with just calling someone a squealing retard it doesn't force them to be creative with their insults and allow all of us on channel 1 to get a good laugh. So all of you squealing retards that have taken 3 steps backwards on the text buffer evolutionary chain ....clam up!!! You are using up bandwidth that the truly creative insulters could be using!!!!

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Shamus · « **Reply #74 on:** July 15, 2002, 09:17:28 AM »

Been a squadie of Wulf's for a couple of years now and I gotta say he's one of the most laid back guy's here, a few jokes on vox or buffer now and then but normally ya dont even know he's there. Now if we were talking about that Farggin Icehole DrDea....

Shamus