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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2002, 11:00:54 AM »
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Originally posted by Eagler


Agreed

but to change some motto, pledge, school song - whatever - just because it has had the word "God" in it for how many number of years is ludicrous. Just another attempt by a few in this generation to eliminate ANY reference to a "God" or "Divine" for the future generations. It's not about us today, it is about our grandchildren's children.


Kinda missing the point Eagler. The length of time a wrong has been committed doesn't make it right. By that logic we should not allow Blacks to vote, hell it worked for 150 years!!! (no I'm not calling you a racist)

And we are not trying to remove God from our lives, just from our Government.
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2002, 11:11:46 AM »
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Originally posted by blur

All the rape, murder, drugs, obscenity, etc. is due to the fact that we live in a repressive society not an open one. What Christians consider to be our “darker” side has to have expression. We have to learn how to channel this energy and not stifle it. It’s going to come out one way or another regardless.

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LOL...you're right...I think all Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer needed was a government funded basket weaving class and all would have been right with the world!

Are you kidding me?

That statement is naive at best.

Some folks are just evil and bad, and no amount of "channeling" is going to make them Mary Poppins.

I don't think being Christian or not Christian or believing in God or not has much to do with it.  It has more to do with what makes certain folks tick.

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2002, 11:12:27 AM »
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Re: Wise words
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2002, 11:17:35 AM »
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Anne gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government, and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.


Sweet! You just have to tell him what to do?? I didn't know it was that easy!

Hey God!  Be a gentleman and spot me a million bucks.

Strange, that didn't work.  What exactly are the rules on telling God what to do?  How many people have to tell him, how many times and for how long?  

Maybe we should ask Anne, she sounds like an absolute master of theology.  Oh wait...no she doens't, she sounds like an idiot.
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2002, 11:22:57 AM »
Clarification on the article.


http://www.snopes.com/rumors/wheregod.htm
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2002, 11:23:21 AM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
"Be Still & Know God"


These are the only wise words in this entire thread.

...added bonus is that this same sentiment echoes in religions other than christianity.

EDIT: Forgot to add... Nostalgia is a terrible thing and truth CAN be relative. :D
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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2002, 11:26:50 AM »
instead of debating back and forth wheter there's a God or not, and wheter it's His fault, we should look at ourselves.

I think if you look deeper than the religion issue in the original message you'll see some common truth..
it's how we as a socieity rear our children, morally or not, that affects the end product of our society.

many of the things listed are 'bullet points' in Stalin's plan to overthrow the US.  simply undermine the societies morals and the battle is done.

you don't need to blame it on religion or lack therof..
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Offline midnight Target

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For Crise sakes check your sources!
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2002, 11:32:10 AM »
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said that we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem. (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said that an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.



Contrary to popular rumor, Dr. Spock's son did not commit suicide. His grandson Peter did commit suicide in 1983...

I wonder if Anne Graham even said those things. Then again, why let the facts get in the way of a good rant? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: <---- still not enough

Thrawn beat me to it. Read the transcript of the interview. You would have done better to post that.
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« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2002, 11:33:34 AM »
Please don't confuse being conservative with being a religious zealot.
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« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2002, 11:39:51 AM »
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Originally posted by majic
Please don't confuse being conservative with being a religious zealot.


As long as you don't confuse an atheist with someone lacking morals.
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« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2002, 11:40:46 AM »
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Originally posted by majic
Please don't confuse being conservative with being a religious zealot.


Yes, what majic said.
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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2002, 11:54:04 AM »
...something smells fishy in this thread...
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Offline majic

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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2002, 03:34:07 PM »
no problem Sandman  :)
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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2002, 04:33:43 PM »
If I am reading many of you correctly, you are suggesting diminishing the role of religion in society has made this country a better place for all...


...guess better is a relative term...


...oh oh, here comes the suggestion I am a bigot and a chauvenist...


...and that I beat my kids because God told me to...


...for a group of tolerant free thinkers, you aren't very tolerant...
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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2002, 04:59:08 PM »
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Originally posted by Kieran
If I am reading many of you correctly, you are suggesting diminishing the role of religion in society has made this country a better place for all...

...guess better is a relative term...

...oh oh, here comes the suggestion I am a bigot and a chauvenist...

...and that I beat my kids because God told me to...

...for a group of tolerant free thinkers, you aren't very tolerant...


Not what I'm suggesting at all you bigoted chauvenist ;)

I take exception to the contentions that:

1. Things were better then - They weren't
2. Thing are worse now - They aren't
3. The reason is lack of religion - See 1 and 2

This country is a better place for more Americans than it was 50 years ago, and the diminished role of religion in our schools has had nothing to do with it one way or the other. It is just the right thing to do.
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