Author Topic: The aircraft, and tanks, I would choose for 1.11 (Read 1480 times)

AdmRose · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2002, 01:54:01 AM »

Since when is 75MM bigger than 7.5CM?

10 MM = 1 CM so 75 MM = 7.5 CM

devious · « **Reply #16 on:** July 29, 2002, 03:41:50 AM »

PzKpfw VI "Tiger" for a perk tank.

And we definitely need the Me-410 ! The real KG51 flew it

mipoikel · « **Reply #17 on:** July 29, 2002, 04:58:00 AM »

I agree previous plane lists.

But I'd add these two..

+ BREWSTER
+ HE111

Why He111? Because it looks good!

brady · « **Reply #18 on:** July 29, 2002, 06:32:56 AM »

AdmRose, the Round fired by the 7.5cm kwk L70 on the panther was heaver than the round fired by the 7.5cm kwk L 48 on the Panzer IV, it was the same diameter but longer heaver.

The Tiger tanks may be more famious, but the Panther was a better tank, in fact the 7.5cm tube on the Panther out preformed the 88 on the tiger I( except in terms of HE effect. I think Bradely said he neaded 5 Shermans for each Panther he killed.

Hristo · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2002, 07:00:21 AM »

Ki.84 as an absolute must. 3500 produced and it is still not here ?!

A clipped wing Spit would be nice too. I hear so much about it, it would be nice to see how it performs.

410 for same reasons, those guns have to be tested in AH arena

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As for vehicles, bring in Shermans, Tigers and Panthers, so we can have Ardennes setup.

Hortlund · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2002, 09:01:46 AM »

Brady, if you add the delivery vehicle of the German Goliath, you would be adding humans (since the Goliath was a wire controlled explosive device on tracks).

IMHO before any new gv:s are included, the ground combat aspect of AH needs a major overhaul. Just to name a few things, gun ranges, gun penetration, damage model, ground model (i e no blow up on hitting tree, more ground clutter to hide in) as it is now, adding more gv:s would only be adding more frustration. Especially if you add Panthers or Tigers and have Ostwinds kill them off.

When we have a working ground combat dimension, I would like to see:
StuG IIIG
Pz VD (Panther)

T-34/85
SU-100

M4A3 76 (w) (Sherman)
M36 (Jackson)

Why this combination? The SU-100 and M36 can take out a Panther with a front hit at good ranges. StuGIIIG, T-34/85 and Sherman are all relatively evenly matched. Panther, SU-100 and M36 would be "cheap" perk vehicles.

Also, these town killers should/could be added to take out towns and bases.

StuH42
JSU-152
M4A3 (105)

Angus · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2002, 09:30:35 AM »

Well thought Karnak, I agree with you totally.
I'd maybe swap the Airacobra for something,- an italian fighter, bomber, or even the Bristol Beaufighter.
But that's just me;)

brady · « **Reply #22 on:** July 29, 2002, 06:01:35 PM »

Yes Hortland I know that:)

Urchin · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2002, 06:16:41 PM »

I didn't read all of it (ok, so I'm impatient).

P-39: I would totally love to have this plane.

Ki-84: I wouldn't fly it, but it'd add variety to the MA (because a few of the N1K2/Spit/La7 'drivers' would switch over.

Stukas: I'd love to see them in, but they would see no use in the MA at all, only be good for scenarios.

H8K2: Flying boat = cool

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Tanks: Ah, definate thumbs down in my opinion. The Flakpansie would eat them alive too, so there is no point in adding them (in my opinion). Once the tungsten-cored HEAP rounds are taken out of the Flakpansies ammo loadout, a Sherman or T-34 would be a cool addition.

I'd also like to see some early-mid war Russian planes, and some early-mid war Japanese planes. Ki-43,Ki-44 come to mind.

Oh, I'd also like to see a Spit IX LF next version, to give the Brit fans something good to fly around that isn't vastly over-priced perwise.

MaddDog · « **Reply #24 on:** July 30, 2002, 03:53:43 AM »

i think the P-39 would be a horrible addition to aces high from everything ive read about it, it was basically a pile of junk that the russians picked up from us ied much rather see an Me-163, or F-8f which would actually be worth flying

Kweassa · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2002, 04:04:51 AM »

P-51s are over-hyped.

P-39s are under-rated.

Though many factors are at work, and it can't be measured in a simple comparison, just for the record the highest scoring Allied aces were using La-5FNs and P-39s. Alexander Pokryshkin, Grigory Rechkalov and Ivan Kozhedub, are among the highest scoring aces in the Allied side. Of those three Pokryshkin and Rechkalov used the P-39 to utmost efficiency against German pilots in Bf109s and Fw190s.

P-39 certainly is not a great plane, not all too good in flight performance - not the fastest, doesn't climb or dive the best, doesn't turn best.. but it is a well balanced plane with about the best firepower there is - 4~6(depending on version) Browning M2 50 calibur machine guns + a 37mm cannon.

Besides, substantial numbers were used at the Eastern front and absolutely a vital part of the VVS plane set. I'd rather have the P-39 than a wonder weapon or a plane that never saw combat.

MaddDog · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2002, 04:12:22 AM »

i still cannot see why u guys hate the bearcat r u guys scared of it so it never actually flew in the war but we skiped making the F-7f just so we could get the bearcat into war god when was it realeased like 3 days after war was over i think since it was made in that era and The us wanted it in service so bad that it should be here as a perk plane or something as for the komet thats no wounder wepon probably really hard to fly but it pionered flight and was a huge step forward i think it would be awsome to have it against bomber even wit a 10 min fuel load i dunno i guess the P-39 just doesnt look fun personally ied love to see The Me-163,Mk1 Meteor, or Mxy-7ohka in 1.11 just for something way new when the last time we got something big like those? the 262 which is fun but getting boring

Animal · « **Reply #27 on:** July 30, 2002, 04:15:01 AM »

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Originally posted by MaddDog
i still cannot see why u guys hate the bearcat r u guys scared of it so it never actually flew in the war but we skiped making the F-7f just so we could get the bearcat into war god when was it realeased like 3 days after war was over i think since it was made in that era and The us wanted it in service so bad that it should be here as a perk plane or something as for the komet thats no wounder wepon probably really hard to fly but it pionered flight and was a huge step forward i think it would be awsome to have it against bomber even wit a 10 min fuel load i dunno i guess the P-39 just doesnt look fun personally ied love to see The Me-163,Mk1 Meteor, or Mxy-7ohka in 1.11 just for something way new when the last time we got something big like those? the 262 which is fun but getting boring

Punctuation is a good thing.

Karnak · « **Reply #28 on:** July 30, 2002, 04:23:05 AM »

MaddDog,

There are plenty of aircraft that saw service and would be great additions to AH. The F8F does not scare us, it simply has no place in a WWII sim. We'd much rather HTC spent their time modeling WWII equipment.

The only thing the Meteor Mk I would have going for it would be its four nose mounted 20mm Hispano Mk II cannon. The Typhoon outdoes it in every way.

The Ohka might be interesting, but it would require a G4M2 "Betty" as well.

The Me163 would have been a great addition back when there were bombers to use it against. Now, it'd be pretty useless.

The Ki-84 was produced in huge numbers and saw lots of action. It would be one of the ten most popular fighters in AH. No other aircraft yet to be added can make that claim, unless a new version of the Spitfire gets added unperked. The Ki-84 saw lots of combat whereas the F8F saw none.

The H8K2 would add a flying boat to the game as well as a powerful Japanese bomber. That would be a new thing, whereas the F8F is just another fighter.

MaddDog · « **Reply #29 on:** July 30, 2002, 04:26:59 AM »

i guess we see differently i play for fun u guys go into MA and battle it out so yea i see where ur comin from but i sit in TA and just fly around and fight some other peole in there eventually im goin to MA but not yet, so yea anyway i still dont get one ting what do u mea no bomber to use the komet against?