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An Axis heavy bomber is needed in Aces High
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2002, 05:46:08 AM »
I honestly do not see why(as far as a german bomber is concerned) why the He 177 is not the obvious choice, production numbers are irrevelent, the He 177 was produced in numbers at least 5 to 6 greater than the C hog, so this is a mute and pointless point. What is important is that the Germans get a good late war buff and the He 177 is the only logical choice, the Do 177 is no whear near as well defended, and the He 177 can cary a bigger load, which is why we nead a German late war heavy, Better defensive firepowere bigger load, why settle for anything else. I mean it is this simple.

 Do 217, weak defensive firepower, smaller bombload

 He 177, Good defensive firepower,Good bombload

 The 40 some odd mile per hour spead advantage means very little, you will still be intercepted, you will miss that firepower the He 177 has.

 This all irevealent and a side topic, the clear choice from the above planes is the Emily, it brings so much to the game that it simply outweighs the competition.

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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2002, 11:26:07 AM »
Do-217 would be nice in some models it did have a  quad 30 cal in th e tail.  iT is fast had a very decent bombload but it wouldnt be able to do barrel rolls like the lanc or the 17 we have in here.  JU-188 had a 20mm in the rear cockpit as well.  Just a FYI Dr. Z

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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2002, 02:43:35 PM »
anyone know if G8N Renzan was ever used - only 4 built.  Fast (> 350 mph), OK bomb load (1000 kb), excellent defensive fire (nose : 2 x 13 mm type 2 in power turret; dorsal blister, ventral blister, tail turret : 2 x 20 mm type 99 in power turret; beam [right & left]: 2 x 13 mm type 2 in flexable mounts)

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Re: An Axis heavy bomber is needed in Aces High
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2002, 03:52:01 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
An Axis heavy bomber is needed in Aces High

What do you guys think?


I think an Axis heavy bomber (in numbers) was needed in WWII as well.

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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2002, 12:37:34 AM »
from what i've read the He117 (a bit over a thousand) was produced in good numbers - but the krauts didn't have a long range escort to go along with it (or the Ju 290) - if there was brain/2 at the top of the luftwaffe, they'd have got some zekes from their axis buddies for that purpose

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« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2002, 03:48:05 AM »
not flying this sim anymore, but some info from me
regarding the HE177 PAYLOAD.

the 177 had 3 internal bomb bays. if all are used, it had
around 6000kg payload.
when you read about the versions, carrying the guided
bombs, it was a fersion, where 1 out of 3 bomb  bays
where modificated into fuel tanks.
so, only less internal but external the guided bombs.
 
here are the 2 versions for AH:
he177 A5/R2 (anti ship version)

internal: 16x50kg or 4x250kg or 2x500kg
external:LT 50 torpedos (3?), 3 Hs-293A or
              3 FX-1400-FritzX

he177 A5/R1 (bomber version)

internal: 48x50kg or 12x250kg or 6x500kg or 6x1000kg
              or 2x1000kg+2x1800kg or 2 LMA-III-MINES+
             2x 1800kg


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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2002, 05:41:11 AM »
TY for adding that info, It would be interesting to see If ever HTC modeled the Hs-293A or FX-1400-FritzX .

  All in all a very usefull Payload on the He 177.

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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2002, 05:52:56 AM »
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Originally posted by whgates3
anyone know if G8N Renzan was ever used - only 4 built.  Fast (> 350 mph), OK bomb load (1000 kb), excellent defensive fire (nose : 2 x 13 mm type 2 in power turret; dorsal blister, ventral blister, tail turret : 2 x 20 mm type 99 in power turret; beam [right & left]: 2 x 13 mm type 2 in flexable mounts)


you can check this site:
http://64.124.221.191/ijna/g8n.htm

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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2002, 05:54:46 AM »

G8N1 Renzan