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Offline Fester'

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« on: September 27, 2001, 03:37:00 PM »
its clear that so many love flying the spitfire. even though its slow.

no doubt these dweebs are hording perk points for a spitXIV.

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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2001, 03:38:00 PM »
I am saving mine for the Buffalo XIV.

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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2001, 03:39:00 PM »
add to that the spitXIV will wear the disguised icon of just: "SPIT" making it imune to perk plane stalkers for the most part.

this would make it the most dangerous plane in AH and probably the best perk ride for anyone who dosn't want to be hunted but wants to fly a plane with awsome turn and burn ability and awsome speed and climb

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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2001, 04:36:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Fester':
fly a plane with awsome turn and burn ability and awsome speed and climb

Wot? that iz my nickie wickie, what is this SPIT, a camel?

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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2001, 06:39:00 PM »
Fester,

True.  The Spitfire MkXIV, F4U-4 and P-47M/N will probably get used more than other perk planes.

The biggest reason I don't fly perk planes much is because its not fun to take an aircraft with slightly better performance and have everyone hunt you.  Its not like flying an uber ride, its like swimming through shark infested waters while bleeding.

I can grab an La-7, P-51D or Fw190D-9 and get nearly the same performance without any of the drawbacks for free.

Why should I waste my time (and perk points) doing something that isn't fun?
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Offline SirLoin

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2001, 09:05:00 AM »
SpitV is the most dangerous plane cause it is disguised until you make the mistake of trying to turn with it in your Niki or SpitIX..  :D
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2001, 09:48:00 AM »
I don't know where all this myth comes from that the Spit XIV was such an outstanding burn&turner. After what i could understand it faced similar problems like the 109 K-4.: Extremly overpowered in a cell, that basicly was designed in the 30'ies. Both, the Me and Spit, peaked in the  F4 and the Spit in the IX, where power and aerodynamics where perfectly balanced. After that they gave up manourvreably to speed and climbrate. At least thats what i have read somewhere. Anyone can confirm this?

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2001, 07:07:00 PM »
JG_Sunbird,

The general consensus is that the Spitfire MkV or Spitfire MkIX were the most pleasant to fly and that the Spitfire MkXIV was the best warplane Spitfire of the war.

According to all of the documents that I have seen the Spitfire MkXIV is still nearly as manuverable as the Spitfire MkIX.  It simply has much more power available.

Do not equate the Spitfire with the Bf109. The Spitfire took more power and more weight much better than the Bf109 did.

Here are some documents:

Spitfire MkXIV Climb & Speed
Spitfire MkXIV Weights & Loading
Spitfire MkXIV Handling Trials
Spitfire MkXIV AFDU Tactical Trials

The AFDU Tactical Trials may be of most interest to you.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2001, 04:19:00 AM »
Gotta love those Brits. The only comment on formation flying in the last essay is "quite straightforward." Jolly good, old boy, I say.

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2001, 04:27:00 AM »
Karnak Spit XIV is NOT a turn fighter. The reason its said to be the best warfighting Spit was due to its speed,power and climb. Turning became increasingly irrleavant as the war progressed.

Plus all of you can keep ur fantasies about SpitXIV being "nearly" as manuverable and nice handling as a IX.

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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2001, 04:51:00 AM »
GRUNHERZ,

Please post some evidence that the Spitfire MkXIV can't turn.

I've never seen any, and I have looked.

Until I see some evidence I will have to believe the wartime reports that it could and conclude that the naysayers are the ones harbouring the fantasies.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2001, 11:11:00 AM »
It was not a turn fighter, it was not an old fashined dogfighter in the tradition of early spits. Thats what I mean. I didnt say it couldnt turn, did I? I said it wasnt a turn fighter mainly, it was a high speed high power high wingloaded fighter.

By early I mean before the MkIX, one could say that was the time when spits abandoned the old ideas about "dogfighting". Certainly the way the FW190s flew influenced that.

Do you know the RAF Spitfire pilots said themselves about turning in combat???

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2001, 05:02:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak:
GRUNHERZ,

Please post some evidence that the Spitfire MkXIV can't turn.

I've never seen any, and I have looked.

Until I see some evidence I will have to believe the wartime reports that it could and conclude that the naysayers are the ones harbouring the fantasies.
Not having any hard sources but rather
speaking logically i assume that
Spit9->Spit14 and Spit5->Spit9 was similar modifications. I belive  Spit5 turns quite better then Spit9.

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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2001, 05:12:00 PM »
GRUNHERZ,

I certainly understand that its ability to turn was not its best strength.

Speed is life, and that is something that the Spitfire MkXIV has that our current Spitfires do not.

However, the Spitfire MkXIV was only about 500lbs heavier than the Spitfire MkIX and COULD turn better than most aircraft. That doesn't mean it was a good idea to use it.

However, in the context of AH, where dying matters little, if at all, people will use its turning capabilities and the fact that it is a good turner, good diver, great climber and has good speed means that it would be a super plane in the context of AH.

The Spitfire MkXIV has to be a perk plane.

BTW,

I've been flying the Fw190D-9 and Typhoon MkIb lately and haveing good success in both.  Neither could be considered turners. I'm not exactly addicted to turning.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2001, 07:02:00 AM »
Thats exactly what Im saying Karnak.  :)