Author Topic: Now that we've got an HA, GERMANS NEED A HEAVY BOMBER!!!! (Read 1453 times)

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2001, 01:24:00 AM »

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Do you actually know anything about He-177 ?
If not maybe you should search some info about it before typeing comments like that.

Stopped by that web page too staga. Couldn't help but notice how easy it was to list all that plane's accomplishment.

I do like the way that "it was used" and "it was hardly used" can be substituted when the argument suits you.

AKDejaVu

Westy MOL · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2001, 07:50:00 AM »

"I do like the way that "it was used" and "it was hardly used" can be substituted when the argument suits you."

Which is why actual production and deployment for use should be the final measuring stick. Not how many (prototypes are not considered "produced and deployed" aircraft), how many planes did it shoot down or if it saw action.

IMO

Westy

Toad · « **Reply #17 on:** August 11, 2001, 08:52:00 AM »

Agree, Westy.

Deployed operationally is my personal test.

A real squadron of at least a dozen, staffed with trained combat-ready pilots, backed up by a full Maintenance staff, with Admin to run it and plan the missions.

Cobra · « **Reply #18 on:** August 11, 2001, 09:32:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga:
What HA ?

The one in WWIIOnline.....

Ohh gawd, I crack myself up.....stop it, my sides are hurting now....plleeassse, i'm killin' me....

Cobra
Boy, I really should cut down on the caffiene

Staga · « **Reply #19 on:** August 11, 2001, 10:28:00 AM »

Karnak if HTC keeps "Status Quo" would you be happy then?
Brits have a bomber with twice the load of Ju-88 and better armament.

btw:
He-177; service delivery (A-1) March 1942, (A-5) February 1943.

juzz · « **Reply #20 on:** August 11, 2001, 10:35:00 AM »

He 177 would be a good addition as a heavy bomber, in the perfectly reliable world of AH.

But one of those late-war Japanese mediums needs to come first!

Hooligan · « **Reply #21 on:** August 11, 2001, 01:42:00 PM »

The Germans kinda needed a heavy bomber during the war also. The US needed good long range fighters in January of 1942. The Japanese needed nukes. Problem is that despite these needs, the specified parties didn't really have em.

Hooligan

wells · « **Reply #22 on:** August 11, 2001, 02:58:00 PM »

The 262 was a bomber, no?

milnko · « **Reply #23 on:** August 11, 2001, 03:06:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak:
<snip> By all means, complete the sweep and give the Germans all of the cards.

OH BABY! SWOTL in 3dFx !!!!

Lemme see, the planes we lufters really, really need are;

He 162
He 163
Me 110
Me 410
Ju 87G
Ho 229 Flying Wing!!
Do 335
Me 262A-1a/U4 Pulkzerstörer (Mauser MK 214A 50mm Cannon equipped)
Ju 287 See pic
Me 264 See pic

Yep, I'm thinkin' the planeset would then be complete and on parity with the "allies"

<G,D,R!!!!>

juzz · « **Reply #24 on:** August 11, 2001, 03:25:00 PM »

Homer(shaking fist in air): YOU'D BETTER RUN, EGG!!!

Staga · « **Reply #25 on:** August 11, 2001, 03:32:00 PM »

Nevermind, I'm going to toejam on some Spit and Tu-2 topics.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #26 on:** August 11, 2001, 03:34:00 PM »

Damn Hooligan trhat is an arrogant and ignorant post.

There were over 1000 He177 made. They took part in anti shipping operations, the 1944 Blitz, they participated on the east front, they saw all manner of service.

No they didnt see use like the US or British Bombers did, but IT WAS A REAL LW HEAVY BOMBER that was built and used in good numbers.

As for its inclusion in AH, thats up to HTC. I dont fly bombers much at all so I dont really care, but this mindless attack by you and others is simply unnecesary.

Staga · « **Reply #27 on:** August 11, 2001, 04:09:00 PM »

Grun its only lack of knowledge and education.

Hooligan · « **Reply #28 on:** August 11, 2001, 04:13:00 PM »

From Gustin's military aircraft database:

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The He 177 was the only series built German heavy bomber of WWII, and a dismal failure.... 1094 built, but most were never used in combat.

Okay Grunherz I stand corrected.

My post should have said that the Germans needed a heavy bomber that was not a dismal failure.

Hooligan

milnko · « **Reply #29 on:** August 11, 2001, 06:13:00 PM »

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Originally posted by juzz:
Homer(shaking fist in air): YOU'D BETTER RUN, EGG!!!

Hey! I didn't even mention that we Lufters really, really need the Bf 109T which was the navalized version of the 109 designed to go on the Graf Zepplin!!!!!

And tho we without a doubt need the Graf Zepplin, we definately and positively need the Bismark and Tirpitz.

After ALL those are added,[/i] then I think the Brits should possibly git the Swordfish and maybe the P-39 or P-40. Although those two additions might un-balance the axis vs. allies planeset.

On reflection it most likey would be best for equality of the arena if the Allies only get the Brewster Buffalo this is only to insure fairness and parity, AND ONLY AFTER we Lufters get the planes and ships I've listed above 'cuz we really, really need 'em.

(As you prolly know the Graf Zepplin was sunk by those dirty stinkin' under-handed limeys before she could make her maiden voyage)

(did I stir up the sh*t pot enuff yet?)

OH MY!™
<S>
Milenko