Author Topic: It must really suck to...well...suck. (Read 544 times)

Apache · « **on:** August 15, 2002, 10:20:49 AM »

Now, I've been around the block a few times and idiotic behavior doesn't normally bother me but lastnight was an exception.

Here we are fighting the rooks and having a really good time. Back and forth. They would get the advantage, then we would get it back. Time was flying by and I was really into it.

Suddenly over room channel some of the most disgusting language I've heard in a long time and believe me, I've heard alot, comes blasting out so freakin' loud I had to yank my headset off.

I put my headset back on and this guy is still going off. All because he gets shot down by a lone rook and he didn't get a 6 call.

You mean out of all those folks at this field he's the only one who didn't see the con and it was our fault?

Look behind ya numbnuts. We only been fightin' 'em for the last 2 stinkin' hours.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2002, 10:37:08 AM »

I get pissed off too Apache. I'm a Rook and usually as I am on the "sissy silk" I will go to the Range channel and type "not One Check 6", (if I blatantly see someone around me) "fine, enjoy life because I will not 6 ya back". An apology usually transpires, and all is forgiven, fly off into the sunset, etc. etc.

But to get as immature that, I would have squelched him, it (being the channel) or something. Apache, you seem to have yer toejam together so I gather that is indeed what you did.

PS - Let me know next time, I'll shoot em down for ya!

Karaya2

Puke · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2002, 11:26:40 AM »

Check Sixes are nice but in the end your own survival rests in your own hands and eyeballs. There are times I'm swooping in and out of a mighty furball and I know the Check Sixes will be rare because everyone has their own problems to contend with and aren't babysitting me with their eyes. There are times I am watching that high Spit above me and the Typhoon closing on me from my 8 and the N1K trying to climb up to me to not notice a country-mate nearby being attacked. It can be aggravating to get nailed, but man, nothing is lost more than maybe one point in your K/D and nothing to stop you from upping again.

Apache · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2002, 11:31:12 AM »

lol Karaya2, I'll take you up on that.

Actually instead of squelching, I listened for a minute or 2 to a couple of guys trying to calm him down. Didn't work, so I logged off.

ghostdancer · « **Reply #4 on:** August 15, 2002, 11:34:01 AM »

That is bad and I agree with you completely. People should always look behind them and not rely on somebody else hollering to check your six.

When I first started playing I knew what a "check six" was but not how to do it. Hadn't figured out the keymapping yet (it was like my first week and was getting use to the switch from AW to AH). Anyway I am flying home and this other pilot in a Tempest (whom I shall not name) gets nailed by an enemy settling on his tail. He never looked behind himself focusing instead on killing another enemy plane.

Anyway he figures its my fault since I did not give him a check six and reups and then follows me around for about 10 minutes just check sixing me constantly. When I asked him to stop he goes off on me about not check sixing him and that I was the reason he lost his tempest. Didn't even listen to me that I knew what a check six was but not how to do it.

But I agree with your main point .. if you don't constantly check your own six view then their is nobody to blame but yourself. Relying on others to watch out for you while you hunt others is a quick way to die.

Turbot · « **Reply #5 on:** August 15, 2002, 11:40:37 AM »

Receiving a "check 6" is not a god given right, its a privalage. I am thankful for the ones I get, and have saved my life many times (thanks) - but they are not a SA replacement.

As for the abusive language and such - as long as there are jerks in the world, I am confident we will always recieve more than our fair share in Aces High. All you can do is squelch em. (Channel 1 text has become such a cesspool, I rarely have it unsquelched.)

OZkansas · « **Reply #6 on:** August 15, 2002, 12:18:30 PM »

He heeeee, isn't it always someone elses fault for your failure? What is real unfortunate is this atitude carries over to real life for some!

Hey, if ya get nailed you are the one who put yourself in the situation. If you feel that others are there only to do your work then perhaps you should find other activities where you are part of a team or something.

The guy who followed ya around giving "check 6" needs to get a job or something where he can learn resposibility:) Ain't this game great:)

Gloves · « **Reply #7 on:** August 15, 2002, 12:28:37 PM »

I wish HT would just get rid of the check 6. Make ya use vox. I had one guy cuss me out because I gave him a check 6 right before he was shot down. Said I should have called it sooner. Problem was, I called it when I saw it, but he didn't listen to that.

Just curious, if you squelch somebody, does that squelch any C6 calls they make to you?

AvidMC · « **Reply #8 on:** August 15, 2002, 12:54:55 PM »

Apache,

If I was in you situation I would have immediately latched on to the dweebs arse and gave him about a 50 check six calls a minute until he moved on with life. I mean after all he wanted a check six so...give the people what they want!!!

Avid

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2002, 01:02:15 PM »

Squelching someone does squelch "check 6"s from them.

I don't always expect check 6s, but I give them whenever I see a problem. I am still amazed when I'm watching my 6 and see a con heading in with a friendly right behind him. I usually hold my position as long as is safe to get everyone a little closer together. This habit affords me the opportunity to watch how people behave in that situation.

I am amazed at how many will follow an enemy as he dives on you and not say a word on voice or via the check 6. I understand that in a furball things get complex and its nearly impossible to use check 6 effectively. You never really know just who the con is targetting and you could disrupt things by excessive check 6s. I think this is something the person that was complaining was failing to understand. But in an open environment where there is little to no other action... ???

What I hate to see stressed is the attitude that check 6s are some kind of special present that only needs to be given out at Christmas time. I don't expect them, but I don't see why more people don't use it. I view it the same way I view courtesy.

AKDejaVu

gofaster · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2002, 01:19:04 PM »

It took me a month to figure out how the Check 6 thingy worked. Took me two more weeks to map a button to do it (I remapped my keys so that they synched up with my other flight sims, and in so doing I somehow managed to break the Check 6 key). Until I figured it all out, I usually got on the Range mic and started babbling "Uh, check 6, there, you!" and then felt embarassed when all the guys around me started swerving around.

But at least I didn't vent all over the microphone and tie up radio bandwidth that could've been better used calling out targets.

Furious · « **Reply #11 on:** August 15, 2002, 01:25:34 PM »

Names, Apache, we need names.

Any tool blaming others for their inability look to backwards must be ostracized

...as an aside, I am very tired of being told how stupid I and the rest of the folks not doing "approved missions" are by the self proclaimed leaders of the knits.

STFU, I don't care about resets. I don't care if we lose some bases near HQ. I fly to have fun and I will go anywhere on the map to find it, regardless of its current worth to our "illustrious leaders".

F.

JimBear · « **Reply #12 on:** August 15, 2002, 01:25:43 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by AKDejaVu

I am amazed at how many will follow an enemy as he dives on you and not say a word on voice or via the check 6. I understand that in a furball things get complex and its nearly impossible to use check 6 effectively. You never really know just who the con is targetting and you could disrupt things by excessive check 6s. I think this is something the person that was complaining was failing to understand. But in an open environment where there is little to no other action... ???

AKDejaVu

Exactly, I stopped counting the times a conga line of friendlies were chasing the conn on my 6 with nary a call.
Depend on my wingman, then a squad m8 for a "6" call other than that.. it must be christmas christmas present

Midnight · « **Reply #13 on:** August 15, 2002, 01:28:29 PM »

The only ones who you should expect a check 6 from are your squadmates. Other than that, you take them as they come and forget about it if they don't.

It's not any other player's responsibility to give you a check six unless you have an agreement that you will cover each other (I.E. squadmates, wingman buddies)

Just because it's an option in game, doesn't mean the other guy has to use it. It's like all the other game play issues out there.

And in case you are wondering, I DO send check six whenever possible.

J_A_B · « **Reply #14 on:** August 15, 2002, 01:30:56 PM »

The CHECK6 "feature" is IMO the most worthless idea in AH as it promotes people to get lazy and blame others for their failures. I don't give check 6's using that feature (if I do I'll use the text radio), and I don't want them to the point where I long ago deleted the .wav for it.

Far from saving me, they're just an annoyance. I haven't been shot down by an unseen plane since January I think. 90% of the CHECK6's I get (still seem it in the text, even with no sound) are when the enemy is 3K away in front of me.

I guess, in response to DejaVu, I don't view them as a courtesy, but as an annoyance.

J_A_B