How our war hawks avoided military service

[KG45]

>>You guys can't be missing the obvious; that is, democrats are using this tact to discredit republican efforts to continue the war on terrorism by going into Iraq. <<

which part of this isn't partisan?

>>Smear the enemies to get results..<<

gee, if sorry if misconstrued, but maybe you could be less vague?

[KG45]

>>if so, i guess politics has replaced religion as the opiate of the masses.<<

i think we should go back to having opium as the opiate of the masses!

[easymo]

Combat training is much more rigorous and demanding on the body than any, and I mean ANY, athletic event other than maybe an epic adventure race such as the Eco-Challenge, and even then, those athletes eat a lot better than soldiers in the field. [/I


I made it through Army basic training, and a tour in Nam, with a crushed 4th lumbar, and the disc's above it and below it blown out completely.  You can always find an excuse, if you are looking for one.

[10Bears]

Rush having a cyst on his bellybutton is good but the winner is.....

Tom DeLay, the most powerful hawk in the House of Representatives, missed Vietnam too: he was working as a pest exterminator. Reportedly, he once complained that he would have served; but, he said, all the places were taken up by ethnic minorities

heheheh
Gosh I really wanted to serve! but when I got there  the darkies took up all the slots!

[Kieran]

Up the meds, Furious.

Everyone is discussing the merits of the claims, (apparently) failing to recognize the purpose behind them. Why do the claims suddenly surface at election time? That I point out the fact it's a democratic smear tactic is true, like it or not. Nowhere did I ever say the republicans don't do the same thing.

Sorry KG45, try to parse that out that way if you like, it just isn't there.

[Udie]

Duke Cunningham.......

John McCaine......

Jim Karry (sp?).....

Another Dem who's name I can't remember.....

[miko2d]

I always said completing a tour of miltary service and/or enrollment in the reserves should be prerequisite for obtaininng citizenship franchise. Well, at least after I've read Heinlen.

 miko

[KG45]

whatever, kieran

anywho, how is pointing out service records, (facts), a smear?

[Kieran]

What the messenger is saying is this- you have no right to send our troops into combat when you yourself were too cowardly to serve yourself. This serves two aims- first, it undermines support for the largely republican effort to go into Iraq, and; it brings up the unsavory past of an elected official right before election.

In the first case, it avoids the issue of whether or not invading Iraq is a good idea by shifting focus to personal issues. Now the warhawks have to defend their personal pasts instead of fighting for the effort. In the second case it brings the character of the officials into question right when it can do the most harm.

Anyway, why does something have to be false to be a smear? Smear is the act of ruining a reputation, isn't it? Can't fact serve as well as fiction?

[Furious]

What the messenger is saying is this- you have no right to send our troops into combat when you yourself were too cowardly to serve yourself.

the messenger is correct, reguardless of party affiliation.

it does not require medication to see you are a sucker for your "party".  tow that line boy.


f.


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bleh, i broke my number one conversational rule.  never argue politcs.  its a useless subject that never gets anywhere.  have fun and ignore me.  bye

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Furious


the messenger is correct, reguardless of party affiliation.



f.

So then it was only right for Clinton to lob in the safe missles as opposed to really "doing something" about Bin Laden?

I knew you were a liberal furious.

[Furious]

ok, one more...

So then it was only right for Clinton to lob in the safe missles as opposed to really "doing something" about Bin Laden?

did you not read the part where i said reguardless of party?

if you were too cowardly to serve your country, i don't think you should command it either.

liberal, phht.  i am certain i don't fit neatly into your bipolar world view.


f.

[popeye]

I'm confused.  Matthew Engel, a Brit, is working for the Democratic Party by smearing Republicans in British news?

[Kieran]

Furious-

One more time here. If you cannot see what I am saying, and are suggesting I am toeing the line, what can I say? You don't see this as avoiding the issue of whether we should be going into Iraq by engaging in a debate about the moral character of the proponents? Whether or not it is true was nothing I ever contended; I am saying I see through the purpose for bringing it up now.

And yes, I was thinking of Clinton and his military record, along with W and his father. It works both ways.



Popeye-

Tell me why Engel brought it up if it was not to question the right of these people to suggest aggressive action against terrorism and Iraq. Last check, the Brits were over 50% opposed to such actions.

[Charon]

Tom DeLay, the most powerful hawk in the House of Representatives, missed Vietnam too: he was working as a pest exterminator. Reportedly, he once complained that he would have served; but, he said, all the places were taken up by ethnic minorities.

That dammed Affirmative Action again

Charon