Apple Gets Stronger

[Fritz-]

It Still amazes me that the old gamers attitude that the Mac is a to small a market to invest in still prevails..  Apple Computer sales continue to increase and Jobs himself has thrown much interest of the expansion of Apple in the Games Market.  Still AH probably cannot afford to develop two  versions at the same time..  So they take the Safe option..

I have a Suggestion ! Talk to Apple about your Game and see what they say or offer..  

As for those PC heads who childishly insult the Mac !! They have more than likely Never Used one........

I have to use a PC at work and its something I personally would Never buy. My PowerMac is everything I ever wanted in a Computer.. a dream machine..  Plus the option for me is Simple.. I stay in WarBirds and Mac On..  If my outfit leaves I will simply join another that doesnt..

If AH smells Safe money they will soon change their minds.. In the end thats what it comes down to.. the curse of modern man-made society...

: )

[Horn]

<punt>

Stirring cauldron...

dh

[rosco-]

 I never owned or used a mac, I am sure they are great. But flying Dawn of Aces a lot I can say that if the recources arent available to support the mac its better to be left out. DOA supports the mac...but it doesn't, they had a mac  version up untill a month ago and since then the mac guys have been out of the game. Even before they didnt
have a full featured version, no 3d, and near everything had to be done with dot commands as the interface wanst compleated.
 The doa NG is full of angry mac users that want in. If the recources arent there to make it happen, then its better left out than to end up with a situation like doa.
  Thats my take on it anyway, nothing against the mac or any mac users.



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Rosco
*Flying Aces*

[eagl]

I used a mac at work for about 2 years (several years ago), and then had the *cough* opportunity *cough* to configure a brand new mac for my grandparents about one year ago.  I found that while getting lots of things working was very easy with the mac (a complete OS re-install was a matter of popping the CD in and saying GO!), when things didn't work right it was a complete hassle figuring out where to change settings and stuff.  In addition, I couldn't convince the base text editor to open a simple config file, and I couldn't figure out how to change the config file tag to a text file tag.  I KNOW it was a simple text file with settings in it, but the OS wouldn't let me look at it.  Strange.

I couldn't get the modem to dial or hang up properly when some sound driver or whatever they're called was loaded, so the mac became soundless in order to get the modem to work.  It was a simple external modem attached to the port labelled "attach external modem here", but there was a conflict somewhere.  With the OS blocking me from getting into the config files, I had no way to actually fix the problem so I simply had to disable the sound service.

In a PC, I would have been able to instantly check all config files, check out the device mangler to see if there were any resource conflicts, etc etc.  It was probably something very simple, but I spent about 10 hours clicking on every single button and running every single system utility without finding out how to change anything without using their config menu (which hid the actual settings).

I guess that's easy to use... push the button and either it works or it doesn't, I'm enough of a control freak that I'll stick with my horribly complex "window manager on top of DOS" kludge called win98 because at least I have the option of messing it up myself  

Oops, this is off topic.  Ah well I'm bored, sorry Pyro.

I guess I can add some AH based content... uh... Will AH run on those new toilet-seat applebooks?  If so, will there be options for those who are stuck with a single mouse button and won't buy a mouse with 2 buttons?

There  



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Oink Oink To War!!!

[Jochen]

I have been in computer (and telecom) business about 10 years and I have seen Mac only once in my lifetime and that was in some science fair as demo machine.

Mac's are definitely not very popular in here Finland.

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Obfr. jochen 'Stern von Afrika' 2./ Jagdgeschwader 27 'Afrika'

[Sascha JG 77]

Hmm Spit vs 190, Chevy vs Ford, Mac vs PC...  .I never owned  a MAC and I prolly never will. I remember some Apple-junkie telling me how great the IMAC was. I said: "I would never buy a Computer that doesn t even have a floppy drive installed." His reply: "Aww you don t need disks anyway..." "But what if I wanna make a backup?" "Man you re so conventional...you can back your data up online..that's the way of the future"...Yeah right  

I m not saying MACs are bad: I used to use them professionally in my old publishing company, where they used Quark Xpress for MAC.
It's just not my kinda Computer and I don t think that HTC wanted to make an "Anti-Mac" statement when they decided not to develop a Mac version. Who knows? Maybe in a few months when they have the time and resources to do it, they might re-consider...

You guys are just too touchy about your favourite toys..kinda reminds me of the AMIGA crowd in Germany a couple of years ago who ran around with "NO Intel inside" and "Back for the Future" T-Shirts on a crusade against "EVIL" Bill Gates.
   

This message contains sarcasm. If you feel offended: flame on!

Sascha


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[Horn]

 

I said: "I would never buy a Computer that doesn t even have a floppy drive installed." His reply: "Aww you don t need disks anyway..." "But what if I wanna make a backup?" "Man you re so conventional...you can back your data up online..that's the way of the future"...Yeah right

I use Macs, I use PC's. Whatever is the best tool for the job. (just so happens that the Mac is often much better at the job) I wouldn't buy an iMac. Would you/did you buy a IBM PCjr? Why not??

Lack of expandability? Stupid "chicklet" keyboard? Sound familiar?

The iMac--NOT fer everyone.

I just wish we could all just get along...in AH  

dh

[Sascha JG 77]

Err...what s an "IBM PC jr."?
**This is not sarcasm..I really never heared about it**

Oh and BTW..that was what my post was all about..trying to tell people to get along with each other (in a ..well..weird kind of way).
 After all? Who friggin cares what kind of puter you or I or anybody have on their desks?    

Sascha

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[Rolo]

 

Err...what s an "IBM PC jr."?

It was IBM's "home" machine from the early 80's.  It is probably best known for it's wireless "chiclet" keyboard.  

Now to the point at hand.  Yes, there are a lot of Macs out there.  Yes, the Mac can be a  good game machine. And, yes, I think it's crazy to support the both PCs and Macs in a game like AH.

In supporting both platforms, you need to maintain a level playing field between platforms (which means you program for the lowest common denominator).  It also means you need to make simultaneous releases.  While a lot of PC games are ported to the Mac, how often do you see a simultaneous release?  IMHO, supporting both platforms merely creates a lot of headaches which the incremental increase in revenue (assuming it outstrips costs) does not outweigh.

Rolo

 

[Captain Krunch]

Apple has slipped so far that I really don't see a reason to produce a Mac version of AH.  According to Statmarket (www.statmarket.com) the Mac OS comes in at just 2.48% of online users and continues to fade.  Compare that to Windows which rates a stagering 94.77%.  Heck, at this rate it won't be long until it makes more sense to produce a LINUX version than Mac, hehe.    

[Tigger]

What's the point of this post?

Seems to me it's just a reason to b$$$ch about HA not supporting a particular platform , so what? If I'm developing a program then don't I get to decide what I write it in and to what platform I want my program to run on?

Seems to me thats what the HA people are doing, it's their right why raise such a fuss over it?

[Ruger Redhawk]

I'm a Mac user at home and work (used to be PC about 8 yr ago) and was delighted that WB supported Mac. But the kids are getting older now and fact is that all the newest and greatest games come out for PC first, then maybe for Mac some time later.

So, for the kids I started looking into PC's. Read Tom's Hardware Guide, Sharkyextreme, PCmechanic etc, and have enjoyed custom configuring my own computer. Got a great system from www.gamepc.com.  Super glad i did too so now Dad gets to enjoy AH  

But even as a Mac user I frankly was embarrased by the harrassment my colleagues gave WB developers. Based on that history alone I can see why AH would not be chomping at the bit to support Mac.

[Horn]

 

If I'm developing a program then don't I get to decide what I write it in and to what platform I want my program to run on?

Sure, pal, knock yerself out.

But if you want to make money at it, it becomes an elephant of an entirely different hue...

If HTC can meet all of it's corporate goals solely on the Windows side, terrific. I would think, tho, in the normal flow of economics, deliberately excluding 2 million new customers a year would give me sumpin to think about...

just sayin<tm>

dh

[Horn]

 

Apple has slipped so far that I really don't see a reason to produce a Mac version of AH. According to Statmarket (www.statmarket.com) the Mac OS comes in at just 2.48% of online users and continues to fade. Compare that to Windows which rates a stagering 94.77%. Heck, at this rate it won't be long until it makes more sense to produce a LINUX version than Mac,
hehe.

Ain't it great the way you can make statistics sound?

If you had read it, Krunch, you would have noticed that: ALL STATISTICS ARE BASED ON DAILY VISITORS TO SITES USING WEBSIDESTORY TECHNOLOGY. Of which there are a mere 124K sites.

These "statistics" do not represent ANY market information--merely the dweebs who visited these sites.

Here's one for you-- Apple sold 2.57 BILLION worth of CPU's last year. Stick that in yer Pentium and smoke it.

dh

[Horn]

 

But even as a Mac user I frankly was embarrased by the harrassment my colleagues gave WB developers. Based on that history alone I can see why AH would not be chomping at the bit to support Mac.

Hmmm, didn't know about that. Mac peeps in AW are so straight they won't even let ya cuss on the NG, that is, until they discontinued it, at which point we became vicious and bitter....

dh