Author Topic: The Mosquito is too fragile and too flamable (Read 1526 times)

Maverick · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2002, 02:13:16 PM »

Now now now. The damage model of the mossie is taken from the Panzer model. They are both correct. How dare you dispute that with mere facts!!!:mad:

HoHun · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2002, 06:15:16 PM »

Hi Karnak,

>While I will admit that the lack of absolute data does leave open the possibility of unprotected wing tanks, it seems very unlikely based on what I've read.

According to the Mosquito FB. 6 Pilot's Notes, fuel tank pressurization was to be switched off in an emergency since it interfered with the tanks' self-sealing properties.

At least some tanks must have been self-sealing obviously :-)

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Puke · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2002, 09:23:03 PM »

Karnak, is your judgement based on the standpoint of being shot at in one or at shooting at them? The Mossie strikes me as being a pretty durable aircraft...at least against my six .50s. If I can recall, it seems a big aircraft and when I do get a good sight on one, I can get a very good and long burst into the 'wooden wonder.' But to be honest, I don't really encounter the Mossie all that often and not enough to really take away a good accounting of its durability.

Now, personal gripe is that my F4U-1 seems to lose a complete wing the majority of the time I take damage in a fight. That just doesn't seem right and it frustrates me.

BenDover · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2002, 10:19:04 PM »

maybe a bullet damage the hinge?

Karnak · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2002, 11:02:35 PM »

Puke,

It is based on being shot at.

Like you I rarely see the Mosquito.

I am not the only one to note its fragility or tendency to combust.

Octavius had this to say about it:

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Mosquitos set fire just as easy as zekes do.

That was an unsolicited opinion from my thread about waht people enjoyed shooting down.

J_A_B · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2002, 11:29:12 PM »

In my own experience I find that Mosquito takes a fairly large amount of punishment to kill (I fly .50 armed planes), but that's more than made up for by the SIZE of the Mossie compared to single-engine fighters. IMO it's not that the Mossie is especially vulnerable, it's that it's easier to hit which in the end still means they're easier to shoot down.

J_A_B

Karnak · « **Reply #21 on:** August 25, 2002, 11:51:48 PM »

J_A_B,

I don't know. After a slight dusting of .50 cal fire I am usually a blazing torch with about 30 seconds to live.

I hear far fewer pings before losing major bits when I am in the Mosquito compared to when I am in other fighters.

The Mosquito and P-38 are approximately the same size (52ft span on the P-38 and a 54ft span on the Mosquito), yet the P-38 in AH is very noticably tough.

Urchin · « **Reply #22 on:** August 26, 2002, 12:16:13 AM »

Well, the P-38 was made 'noticably tougher' after a not inconsiderable amount of whining.

I do think that it was to weak before they applied the new DM to it, but I think it is a little *too* durable now. In fact, you can hit it with a couple 30mm and not knock it down (which I've done several times).

I don't have any experience with the Mosquito, so I can't comment on its durability. I can say that some planes that had a reputation for being tough in real life aren't very tough in this game, perhaps the Mosquito is also one of those.

MOSQ · « **Reply #23 on:** August 26, 2002, 01:05:31 AM »

Karnak,
If durability is figured by the loss rate factor, then the Mossie must be extremely durable.
It had the lowest loss rate of all the bombers in WW2, a reason why their crews loved them.

J_A_B · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2002, 01:45:23 AM »

Karnak--

Would there be a good time for you to come to the DA Monday or Tuesday or sometime (Tuesday would probably be better for me)? I think we could get a much better idea of what the AH Mossie can and cannot take if we test it ourselves in a semi-controlled environment.

J_A_B

Karnak · « **Reply #25 on:** August 26, 2002, 02:16:29 AM »

J_A_B,

I am free and available on Monday and, technically, Tuesday. I would not be at all surprised if the individual whom I sub for calls in sick or some such on Tuesday, but it might not happen.

I'll be available Tuesday evening in any case.

Controlled tests are a good idea.

Glasses · « **Reply #26 on:** August 26, 2002, 04:48:47 AM »

Heh about P-38s ask kappa how I shot him down last tour in a 109G6

(1/2 sec burst hit the cockpit and kablooee.) In regards to the Pee 38's armor, just aim for the cockpit, that's the juicy soft center,one short burst and alas the P38 goes to fighter hell.

uh huh, uh huh, uh huh.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #27 on:** August 26, 2002, 07:05:00 AM »

Karnak you're such whiner.

J_A_B · « **Reply #28 on:** August 26, 2002, 01:45:07 PM »

Karnak--

Tuesday evening is great. What timezone are you on? (I'm on Eastern time USA).

J_A_B

Karnak · « **Reply #29 on:** August 26, 2002, 04:57:17 PM »

J_A_B,

I'm on the Pacific side.

How about 9:00PM EST (6:00PM PST)?