Bombs on Yak-9u

[DmdBT]

I found an interesting site that listed the Yak-9u as capable of having two 100kg (220 pound) bombs on underwing racks. This armament option would then allow the -9u to be selected for attack missions and expand the role of this great fighter.
I humbly request that HTC please look into the possibilities of adding this loadout if proven historically correct.

Lonz

Warbird Alley

Yak-9 direct

[Innominate]

Shh.

The last thing we need is more people realizing that that plane can do.

[Wotan]

all yak-9 arent the same and the yak-9u and yak-9t we have didnt have internal storage for bombs. The yak 9 developed throughout the war and their were numerous variants.

The yak-9b was an early variant that carried four 220 lb. bombs or containers with light anti-personnel armament in an interal bomb bay.

This plane would not perform anywhere near the yak-9u.

Ofcourse, we could use more variants to include the yak-1 and yak-7.

As well as a yak-3

But before we get a yak-3 I would hope for a few versions of LaGG and Mig fighters as well as an Il-16.

The VVS are quite limited in the planes the have to fly. So if your a VVS fan you either fly other planes or you are limited to the La-5FN , La-7, Yak-9t and Yak-9u. All great aircraft but not really representative of the VVS overall. It may be a matter of finding good reliable data to get some more VVS planes introduced but we can hope. Afterall it was the largest airforce of ww2.

If anything thing I would hope to see more VVS planes even if they are just variants.

[whgates3]

i'm not sure either of the MiG (1 & 3) fighters would be very popular.  they were slow, poorly armed (3 x 0.303 or 3 x 0.50) & lacked manuverability - not as bad at high alts, though...

[Kweassa]

I agree.

 There isn't any VVS aircraft we can call "representative" in AH. The La-7 is a late war plane which came out when it was already clear Germany was gonna lose, and the Yak-9U is ditto. Both are monstrous performers, and good enough to almost deserve a perk.

 The La-5FN and the Yak-9T is probably the only VVS planes which matches the era/time when the VVS and LW were in goring battles... but the La-5FN is itself is above average in performance, probably the best of the best when excluding the non-perked monster planes like Bf109G-10 and Fw190D-9 etc etc... and is a plane that made the first marker of VVS superiority over the LW. The Yak-9T isn't any kind of 'representative' of the numerous Yak-9 variants(and neither is Yak-9U).

 The "real representative" planes that met the LW head-on with iron-like resolve during the periods of 1941~early 1943 were LaGG-3, I-16, Yak-1B, Yak-7B, Yak-9 and P-39N. The P-39N and the Yak-1B would be the two mid-war planes that can be considered "representative", and would make very interesting match-up against planes like the Bf109G-2, Bf109G-6, F6F, Spitfire MkIX and etc etc..

 Say "Yes" to revised armament on the Yak-9U and the IL-2!

 Say "Yes" to more VVS planes!!

 

[Toad]

Weren't Yak-3's initially deployed and in combat in the Summer of '43 near Kursk?

Not exactly a "late war" aircraft then.

I'd love to see a Yak-3 and as brady always says, we need more VVS planes.

What a great choice it would be.

[whgates3]

soviet fighter production numbers:
Yak9   = 16769
La5    ~10000
Yak1   = 8721
I16    = 6555
LaGG3  = 6528
Yak7   = 6399
La7    = 5753
Yak3   = 4848
I153   = 3437
MiG    = 3422 (this number includes MiG1s & MiG3s)
I15bis = 2408


can anyone tell if this is a Yak1b or a Yak9?

lend-lease fighters:
P39    = 5707
P63    = 2400
P40    = 2397
Hurri  = 2952
Spit   = 1331
P47    = 195

[Wotan]

The yak 3 first entered service in Kursk (summer 43). Below 5000m its a monster. The were a few versions.

The first was designated the the Yak-1m 1,260 hp VK-105PF its first flight was in 1942.

The Yak-3 version had a 1,225 hp VK-105PF-2 and first flew in the spring of 1943.

Another version of the yak-3 used the VK-107A. I dont think any saw action during ww2.

The thing is fast at 404mph and a climb rate around 4300 fpm.

Its speed is some what offset by its limited ammo.

There were different versions, Yak-3t armed with 37-mm N-37 cannon and two 20-mm B-20S cannon.

Of all the yak-3s produced there were 4848.

While there was certainly a lot of them produced compared the the total of yak-1s yak-7s and yak-9s its numbers are small.

Same with the total number of LaGG variants.

It would be a great plane for the main. I certainly would not discourage its introduction.

My personal preference would be to see a mig and new variants of LaGG and Yak-9 as well as a yak-1 and yak-7. I would love to see an Il-16 as well.

Throw a twin eng VVS bomber why you're at it.

The yak 3 would certainly fill out the Top 3 vvs aircraft and be a fine addition to the AH planeset.

[Wotan]

one more thing,

I know we have a lot of lw aircraft but we really need a later version of the g6 or possibly a g14. the g6 we have is a fine, fun aircraft but of the g6 variants its the worst performer.

Give us more VVS, IJAAF, IJN aircraft first but please consider including a later variant g6 at some point. You could possibly perk the g10 if we got one.

[Dr Zhivago]

Originally posted by whgates3
can anyone tell if this is a Yak1b or a Yak9?

Yakovlyev YaK-1b
Lilya Vladimirovna Litvyak

[Karnak]

Wotan,

I'd really like to see some early war VVS toys.  I-16-18s, I-16-24s, Yak-1s and MiG-3s.  Those, along with a Ju87 and T-34, would make for some very nice CT setups.

The Yak-1b should be in the colors of Senior Lieutenant Lilya Litvyak.

A Bf109G-14 would make a great addition to the Bf109 roster, but I couldn't see perking the Bf109G-10 unless other late war aircraft saw the same fate, and I just don't see that as a good thing for HTC from a financial point of view.

[whgates3]

Doktor Zhivago,
i have seen that very well put together & informative web site, however the pilots, not the planes, are the focus of the site.
i've read various accounts stating that Ms. Litvyak flew Yak3s and/or Yak9s and have not yet found any undeniable evidence of
such...i have a better picture of her with her Yak that has a 360 degree view canopy somewhere, but havent been able to ID the A/C (cant even find the image right now...)

[Wotan]

Darn Karnak we agree,

Let me say this as well, I love Japanese planes as much as any lw plane. I would love to see that plane set develope before any new additions of lw aircraft (well except maybe a stuka variant).

My desire to see more VVS aircraft has more to do with my interest in the eastern front then in "flying" vvs aircraft.

I dont think HT can make a wrong descision in adding any VVS or IJAAF/IJN aircraft. I have my personnal preferences of course but any "new" plane addition is one more then we have now.

My order of preference for new aircraft would be

IJAAF (fighters please)
IJN (torp bomber/attack a/c, fighters)
VVS (fighters please, then twin eng bombers)
RAF (more variants like for the mossie, spit then add a blen or  beufighter and a wellington or sunderland)
LW (really just 4 planes for me 410, ju87, he111, and a "large lw bomber")
AMI (earlier variant fighters, a-36/p-51a, p47c, p38h or j)

It would be a good thing to see planes added from  Italy and France aswell as a few paint schemes for "other" countries but these are low on my personal list.

[Kweassa]

For once, we're having aircraft discussions without any fighting!!

 This is intolerable!!

 ...

 I agree to generally most of what all of the people here have said. Come to think of it, I've never realized before that the battle of the Eastern Front saw almost as much aircraft as the Western Front, even if only two countries were directly engaged(not including minor factions such as Hungary or Romania..).

 Hate to admit it, but the introduction of 1C:Maddox's "IL-2" certainly seems to have effected a lot of people in how they look at the air war of the Eastern Front

 The early war VVS planes alone include no less than three~four aircraft types.. I-16 "Rata", Mig-3, LaGG-3, Yak-7B... the list for major fighter types get even bigger as midwar VVS variants show a whole variety of fighters.. various P-39s, LaGG-3, 5, 5FN... Yak-1B, 9, 9T, 9D... whew..  I think we can consider only the late war VVS category has been adequately full. When developed to full potential, I think the VVS plane set might become almost as numerous as the LW and the USAAF planeset. It is no wonder, since those three countries were the largest participants of the war in Europe.

 ...

 It'd be interesting to see if HTC will work new planes in "groups" as before, working extensively on one set of planes(BoB... Pacific Theater.. ) each new version.

 I wonder what the new version would bring..

[DmdBT]

Originally posted by Wotan
all yak-9 arent the same and the yak-9u and yak-9t we have didnt have internal storage for bombs. The yak 9 developed throughout the war and their were numerous variants.

From the page...

Specifications (Yak-9u)

Armament:
One engine mounted 20-mm MP20 cannon;
Two 12.7 mm (0.5-inch) UBS machine guns;
Two 220-pound bombs on underwing racks

Just because some piece of information is on the internet does not make it gospel, I understand this fully. My hope here is to spark someone with better investigative skills and/or resources to see if this actually was a valid loadout. It is up to HTC to determine whether or not the addition to the gameplay aspect is worth the investment in time to add the option.

Lonz

Thanks to all who have participated thusfar, I hope it stays civil to where HT/Pyro takes notice.