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Moose11

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« on: March 16, 2001, 10:10:00 AM »
Got the PIII last night and had a hell of a time getting the heatsink to fit over the processor. The clips just were too damn tight.

well, I got it, and everything ran fine. Left the machine running and went to bed.

Woke up this morning with the blue screen of death. Machine wouldn't start up without freezing. I figured it was a heat problem, but what I never expected was to see the heatsink half off. Evidently it somehow slipped off.

Is it supposed to as tight as it could possibly be? (with the white material gooing all over the processor?) And how can I prevent the damn thing from falling off again?

Oh yeah - framerate in Aces High didn't really change all that much. Kind of a disappointment since I went from a 450 to a 800.

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2001, 10:36:00 AM »
Heatsinks should fit nice and snug...be careful tho, or you can damage the processor.

Someone makes a real funky gold anodized circular in design heatsink which works much better than the stock one.

BTW...you should have realized a decent gain in fps with that upgrade...what vid card do you use?



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Offline Mickey1992

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2001, 10:37:00 AM »
I upgraded my PII400 to a PIII600 not too long ago.  I didn't know it at the time but I bought an OEM processor, no heatsink and not totaly encased (SLOT1).  I went out and bought a heat sink and it seemed to attach fine.  I am not sure what you mean by "white gooey material".  That sounds rather scary.  Is your processor a slot1?

My FRs increased by about 20% in AH.  I have a Viper550 vid card and I am certain that the graphics card is now my bottleneck.

Moose11

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2001, 10:48:00 AM »
I have a V770 video card. Need to a Gefarce now.


It's nice and snug allright. Lol. Socket 370 processor is what I have, sorry for not explaining that.

I've just never heard of the fricken heatsink falling off of the processor. I'm hoping that it had some sort of manual shutdown because I don't know how long it was like that. Any way to test how badly damaged a processor is?

The white stuff on the back of the heatsink is to deter heat off the contact point of the ondie cache or whatever that small blue rectangle is. (I'm an expert on PIIs and below, so I've never seen this before)

I'm just worried that the heatsink is crushing the processor.

Does someone know exactly how to install a Retail PIII? I'm looking for an explanation of 'All the small things.'

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2001, 11:28:00 AM »
Moose,
 I have had the heat sink fall off before.. gooey stuff and all.  

Gawd man.. get that thing up and running... your squad needs you!

Wolfie out.

Moose11

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2001, 11:34:00 AM »
Was there any longterm damage to the processor?


Moose11

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2001, 11:59:00 AM »
Also,

When setting up aces high, I imported my profile that I had saved before reformatting.

When running Aces high however, it did not load the profile... I didnt try restarting (went to bed) but what could be *that* problem?

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2001, 12:30:00 PM »
I'm using Titan Majesty heatsink/fan in my oc'd PIII. It has really nice "push and twist" system to tight it on CPU.

Alpha and GlobalWin coolers might be best in market but I'm fully satisfied with my Majesty too.
 http://www.2cooltek.com/

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2001, 12:42:00 PM »
The white material that you are refering to as I believe to be a special paste that suppose to transfer hit from processor to the sink itself. The contact in between 2 surfaces never can be perfect and thus using such paste u making sure that everything will go ok. Some BIOS will have a Temperature reading from processor and as it will get to high it will shout it down. I suggest u running some tests on your machine, however if it is working - it should be ok. In fact overheating your processor suppose to make it run faster   Take that heat sink to where did you bought it from and stick it up theire prettythang. For the price of that PIII it should never happened... Hope everything will work out for you...

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2001, 12:46:00 PM »
You should only have/apply a very thin layer of heat transfer compound to the heatsink.

They will fit tight, but should not have "gobs of white stuff squeezing out all over."  



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Moose11

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2001, 12:53:00 PM »
It's not gobs of paste - just a thin layer that was already on the heatsink.


However, some of it melted so it has a small line of it dripping down the CPU.

Hopefully the system will run allright. I'm more interested in finding out how it slipped off and if I can prevent that before closing the case up again..

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2001, 01:00:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Staga:
I'm using Titan Majesty heatsink/fan in my oc'd PIII. It has really nice "push and twist" system to tight it on CPU.

Alpha and GlobalWin coolers might be best in market but I'm fully satisfied with my Majesty too.
 http://www.2cooltek.com/

I got the same as well..
People told me to be aware of it being hard to install, but it was just as easy as you said.
(maybe they tried to put it on without twisting? hehe)

Moose11

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2001, 01:01:00 PM »
More thoughts

I was just reading that there are foam spacers to put between the cpu and heatsink. (the blue square thing is elevated a little..)

What's the deal with this?

All help appreciated, the more I get the faster I'll be a target for you guys

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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2001, 02:12:00 PM »
I'd clean that white toejam off and replace it with a very thin coating of a good heat transfer compound like Arctic Silver.

Though you may not be using Actic Silver, their instructions will give you some good information.  http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

Now that foam bit is likely there to prevent you from damaging the chip.  Still, if it's like foam or something I can't imagine it will conduct heat very well.  I think I'd take it off.  Proper spacers are normally made of copper like these ones:  http://216.157.14.244/spacers.htm

The trick is, you must clean both the chip and the HSF (HeatSink & Fan) with alcholol or something first.  Then you apply a tiny bit of heat transfer compound to the heat slug (the small square part) of the CPU.  Now VERY CAREFULLY position and clip on your HSF.  Be careful not to twist or slide it if possible during the install.  Most importantly, the HSF must sit perfectly level on the heat slug of the CPU.  If it doesn't make contact properly it WILL get to hot.

Now, because this is an Intel chip, it's not a huge worry.  The Intel chips will actually shut down if they get overloaded and protect the CPU from damage.  The AMD's will just burn up.


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OT: Heatsinks for processors
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2001, 02:18:00 PM »
Bah! Dry ice will work beautifully in there. Give you a real cool <cough> cloud effect too  

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