Is the Pizza map actually FUN?

[Duedel]

I'm with ya Urchin. I'm bored many times when pizza is on. That doesnt mean the map itself is bad (nice high alt bases nice canyons ... ! It only means it' doesnt fit the numbers in AH. Why not scale the map down to 340 x 340?

As it is now, i would suggest to take the map out of rotation - sadly.

[mipoikel]

I like pizza when Im eating it but as a map it sucks!

[straffo]

Perso. I hate no maps the AKDesert just have texture hurting my eyes  perhaps because I'm color impaired ...

[fffreeze220]

yes we are rooks and we know the rooks are not the reset kings that the bish and knight are

ROFLMFAO hehe

[Aydo]

Innomin8,

Your own Poll ( http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=594390#post594390 ) nullifies your statement.

I find that amusing in a way, yet ironic in others.

[hogenbor]

Haven't had much time to play lately but was on last night (Central Europe night that is). Couldn't find any action. Saw some enemies at a field, took off in a Spit I, but before I could get close to the action everyone was dead. Only a lone tank so I shot at that with my .303's, even got an assist for it. On landing I got bounced by a Typh but could avoid him thanks to 'a check 6'.

Saw some other bishops rolling up a field but there was no defense, so nothing to shoot at and I didn't feel like carrying bombs.

Indeed boring.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Urchin


This whole time, about 150 bases are flashing.  This means that there are 150 different 'fights' going on that consist of 1 guy in a Flakpansie shooting up a field, or 1 guy trying to milkrun some installation in a flight of bombers

IMHO this is a function of the very large "front line area" created by each country having 4 zones (1 per island and 1 perimeter).....

Its not a map function but instead a default field ownership function at reset.

The area of front line could easily be adjusted to reduce it. The extreme would be a start position where each nation has a full segment adjacent to its perimeter section.

Actually as a map its quite neat.......the only bad IMHO is the high plateaus with deep canyons triangulating each segment...... travel across this area for action is very slow due to the climbing requirement..and the field layout makes it prone to a GV combat arena...... I think I would have prefered these areas to have multiple spiky mountains and no fields at 10K!

[rv6]

I love the big "Peace Sign" map.  It lets me spend quality time with wife & child.  As soon as I see it, I click "Quit".

[beet1e]

Poor Urchin. Come over here and let me give your ego a nice massage. Doh! My hands are too small.

Maybe I’m in a minority, or a silent majority, but I fight whatever battles the game presents, whether they be at Pizzland, Uterus, or any other location. Soldiers and airmen of wars do not get to pick and choose the parameters of the engagement. Sometimes a real soldier will have an advantage, sometimes he wont.

Now I understand that the F-word is what a lot of whiners want – Fun. But the problem is that to them, fun means only taking off and finding things to shoot at by the time they reach 5K. So be it.

But some of us want to have at least some real life immersion, by which I mean having to think about what resources are needed and exactly when to deploy them in order to win a particular *battle*, which in AH terms means a base capture. I get a few kills along the way...  Some of you might find this *boring*, indeed many of you do.

I know that many of you like to get dozens of kills in an online session, but that is quite unrealistic in terms of the real WW2. (For those of you who need reminding, the real WW2 was an event that took place in the middle of the last century, on which this game is loosely modelled) The fact that you can sometimes get dozens of kills when you want to, which would not have happened in WW2 is because you are able to get those kills courtesy of an artificially created set of conditions. In short, you have learned how to Game the Game on maps like Mindano and Baltic. And, let’s face it. Those who complain about the pizza map most vociferously are the GtG-Furball-Wannabe-Whiners.

I don’t especially *like* the pizza map, but I view its appearance as the presentation of a new set of challenges, something different, and you never see me complaining about this, or any other map. I don’t *like* that map with the heart shaped lake in the middle, but I’ve got a job to do, and I’ll do it as best I can.

I struggle to imagine Urchin as a Bridge player. But I can imagine that if he were to be dealt a hand in which the highest card was a ten, and he had a right old mishmash of suits, he would throw his cards up in the air and go ”Waaaaaah!!  I want a hand with lots of Aces, Kings and Queens so that I can win lots of tricks...”  

...And that is my analogy for all this incessant whining about the maps.

Quit whining, Urchin. You’re wasting valuable killing time.

[lazs2]

Ok... I don't like the pizza map but... I can have some really good fights.   Not often, and they are a squeak to foind sometimes but....

There are so few good fights in the pizza map that when they are "discovered" they are well populated.   People flock to em and we have some of the largest fights ever.   Last night was typical..  79-80  great, large fight but... since the dildo worshipers has so many on they started to swarm (as is their wont)... The gangbang ended the fun for them and us.   finding another good fight is problematic so...

Pizza map... if you find a good fight.. play it out.  Mostly the BK's play till there is no good fights and then log off early.

I woud suggest that we cut a 3 sector swarth of no fields down near the bottom of the pizza and have about nine or 12 close fields down there for early war only planes.  It would make the pizza smaller and more useful and provide a solution for early war planes at the same time.
lazs

[popeye]

I've always found a way to have fun on the Pizza.  But, I seem to be more creative than most.

I like lazs' idea of an early war area on the new generation of big maps.  There's plenty of room for it, and it could satisfy the early war crowd without the hated RPS.

[Samm]

I like the pizza map for two reasons.

1. It's big enough to host 300+ players without crowding, in the smaller maps during the evening every grid square on the border of ones country has a big red bar and a big green bar in it .

2. It's trilaterally symetric, ndisles is the only other terrain that is .  If ndisles was the same size as AKdesert and had a place for GV's that would be great .

[Fidd]

I fully agree, and personally would love to see it cast into outer darkness. I never complain about it in the MA, as I instantly log out of AH whenever I see that bloody abortion of a map loaded.

Originally posted by MWHUN
I think people have very strong feelings about the pizza map on both ends of the spectrum.  I honestly believe that there is a vast majority on one end of that spectrum however.  I think HTC should conduct an “anonymous” logon poll (like they did last night about advertisement) and make there decision based on those results.  

[Grimm]

I hate the Pizza Map, as do most of my squad.  

I would like to see it destroyed or shelved.

There are some nice features in the Map, But its too big to balance off times and prime time.  

The Map is 4 times the size of our other maps,  its too large a jump in size.   A Map of Double size would have been a better choice.   (or in other words half the size of the pizza map)

Think of it like this,  If the Ilses map was as full as it could be, the same amount of players on the Pizza make it only quarter full.  So on a weeknight primetime,  Its only got about an eight of its capacity.   a country tends to be come fragmented as players rush around to put out the fires of milkrunners.  

I hope the Pizza Map is a learning project, and other maps that follow will be more interesting and Sized better.   Its not the features its the sizing in my opinion.

PLEASE REMOVE THE PIZZA MAP..

Thank you

[Don]

>>I'll see you guys once this map gets milkrun to a reset.<<

Urchin:

Perhaps by this time, the map has been reset, and as per usual, the Rooks were the victims. I logged on last night at 8:50 p.m. EST for my squad night, and the numbers were something like Rooks 120; Knights 123; Bishops 135.
The Bish had over 170 bases and the Nits had all but 15 bases; the gangbang was on. But not the typical gang, it was more of a milkrunning type;  Hit them where they aint.  I'm not fond of the 3 country setup, and have said so but, this map makes my reasons much more apparent.