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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2002, 12:22:42 PM »
The spit XIV should be unperked.

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2002, 12:52:20 PM »
Yup ammo, it's good up high, not as it should be though, a spitfire Mk 9 still outperforms it (Mk 9 actually outclimbs and outturns it at 37k).
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2002, 01:01:46 PM »
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Yup ammo, it's good up high, not as it should be though, a spitfire Mk 9 still outperforms it (Mk 9 actually outclimbs and outturns it at 37k).


well maybe the spit9 will outclimb it at that altitude, but if that is true, likely a Jug will as well.  But, that TA will still outpace all of them up there.  As for turning at that altitude...Why?? Its an energy game up there.
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2002, 01:18:50 PM »
OK, Can I get 422mph Ki-84? :)

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2002, 01:20:17 PM »
Yup, but either add MW50 and GM1 or remove the 1000-1200 pounds that is too much and niether the spit 9 nor the P47 are likely to outclimb it up there.

just saying it's porked, pretty bad too.
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2002, 02:13:45 PM »
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well maybe the spit9 will outclimb it at that altitude, but if that is true, likely a Jug will as well.  But, that TA will still outpace all of them up there.  

Don't forget ammo, the Ta152 is perked.  Furthermore, it appears to be porked. :)  The Ta152 is supposed to outperform the jug at 30k.  Heh, I doubt the Ta152 would hold a light to "lucky" at 30k tho. :)

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2002, 02:17:34 PM »
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The Ta152 is supposed to outperform the jug at 30k.
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Is that the jug with or without the 4 bladed paddle prop?  ;)

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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2002, 02:29:27 PM »
Ta152 H-1 would outperform about every fighter in the world at the time above 30k and many bellow.

The performance of the Ta152 above 30k, was on the limit of what is possible using piston engines. There were faster planes but non with better high altitude performance.
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2002, 04:11:11 PM »
Please fix this.  I think it would reinstate a worthy cause in the long run.  Maybe I am speaking my mind here.... actually I am, hold on getting in fight with left brain.  (Poke) ok now where was I.  Might instill some confidence in the Axis crowd if the 152 was looked at or maybe even recognized by Pyro that it is porked.  I know my faith would be restored to a more pleasing level.

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2002, 04:34:55 PM »
Isnt this in the wrong forum?

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2002, 05:43:35 PM »
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Isnt this in the wrong forum?

No, Sling.  You're drunk again.  Check with Urchin - I think he has your underwear.

Although I am flying the jug exclusively this tour (I've never flown one plane exclusively,) I really like the LW iron.  There's nothing meaner looking than an A5 bearing down on a feller. :)

Somebody plz fix the Ta152 and I'll buy Pyro two free tickets to Miz Gracie's "Honk and Hollar Bordello."

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2002, 06:12:27 PM »
Will be interesting to try ta152 with "unporked" fm. Shall be really nice plane to fly. Both faster and with good climb, better turner also.

Should be a 80 perks plane, if it as good as you describe it :) So, wilbuz, think twice, do you really want it unporked? :)

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2002, 06:43:47 PM »
Yes Fariz, I sure want it unporked!

If made to an H-0, it will turn alot better, weight difference is almost 1200 lbs. Climb better too, if made to an H-1, will climb better (should) and be faster at all alts thanks to MW50 and GM1 (should).

Both would accelerate better I think thanks to either MW50/GM1 or to lower weight.

Wouldn't beat Tempest down low I am pretty sure, not in speed atleast.
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2002, 03:24:49 AM »
up!

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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2002, 04:48:00 AM »
I seem to recall the Ta-152H had higher wing loading than the Fw190D-9, but out turned the Dora due to diffrences in power/weight ratio... is this true?

 If it is true, what's it like in AH? Us sucky pilots don't get a lot of chance to really use those perk planes in combat.. :D