More bombers around and more off-mappers

[gatt]

During the last days I've seen a lot more bombers at low-medium at high alt, up to 33K. And this is good, they are very tough foes.

However, thanks to the AH map bug, I've seen a lot of off-mappers as well, popping up at high/very high altitude very close to enemy fields and HQ's. Almost impossible to intercept them and have a fair fight.

This is a new kind of "gaming the game" I cannot stand. Those are buff scum. Some of the worst cheaters I've ever seen in AH.

And yes, I'm talking about Knight pilots as well, when and if they do it.

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GAT
4° Stormo Caccia - Knights
"The Eyeties are comparatively easy to shoot down. Oh, they're brave enough. In fact, I think the Eyeties have more courage than the Germans, but their tactics aren't so good. They are very good gliders, but they try to do clever acrobatics and looping. But they will stick it even if things are going against them, whereas the Jerries will run." (G.Beurling)

[Tac]

I say make all players flying off-map to get a message in their buffer: WARNING: YOU ARE LEAVING THE MAP AREA, YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES TO RETURN TO MAP.

If they dont then they are inmediately killed and sent to tower AND get perkies deducted.

To avoid people from flying on the boundary, flying in and out of the map to avoid detection, make it so that in the 3rd time in the sortie the player gets the message, his plane is destroyed.

[PakRat]

And steal their first born, burn their house, rape their women, tear their skin off 1 square inch at a time, and then burn their carcasses and piss on the embers!

Jeeze TAC, the first suggestion was actually a good one, but no need to kill them or deduct perks if you are already returning them to the tower. That is effectively a death anyway.

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PakRat
http://www.jump.net/~cs3" TARGET=_blank>63rd FS, 56th FG
"Zemke's Wolfpack"

 
"Juggies, dance us back in history!"

[DoKtor GonZo]

I don't see why they need to. The gunner firepower is incredible. I often hear people in fighters say it's "not worth it" to go after bombers now.

   -DoK

[Sandman_SBM]

Just don't go after them alone. It's an easy way to die.

Off-mappers are gaming the game. It's a result of the way the map is laid out and it's an effective ploy.

Can't see getting all worked up about it.

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cheers,
sand
screamin blue messiahs

[PakRat]

I and other members of the 56th go after bombers regularly. I just shot down a B-17 and a B-26 (and a Spitfire) in a single sortie. Heard two pings and took no damage.

Just have to do it right. Wish I did it right every time but sometimes I get trapped in a steady 6 position as I try to keep them from getting to target.

Best attacks (for me) are from above and to the side. Don't aim at them but where they will be when you get in firing range. Aim at them and you will swing around to their 6 every time.

From the side, most bomber gunners don't know to aim behind the attacker as the bullets will be moving forward with the bomber's speed as they move toward the enemy plane. They aim at you and the bullets miss. Every time.

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PakRat
http://www.jump.net/~cs3" TARGET=_blank>63rd FS, 56th FG
"Zemke's Wolfpack"

 
"Juggies, dance us back in history!"

[Booker]

This is an area where the HTC guys might want to steal an idea out of the latest from iEN. Go too far off the map in their latest beta and you explode into your component polygons.
You can bet that anybody who's spent 1/2 hour climbing to alt won't even go *near* the map edge after the first time thats happened to him  
booker

[Westy]

 A fast slicing attack, from 8 o'clock to 2, or 4 o'clock to 10, works well. Add a pinch of skid.  But hit em good, keep going, roll around them and nail em once more from the other side. Few bomber pilots are good enough to keep thier plane flying with an engine or two out while manning a gun and trying to shoot you too.

 As for off the map? SOme dweebs wil ldo anything for points. <shurg> Big deel. They'll be on the hamster wheel doing the same thing tommrow. Rinse, repeat..   Shoot em down when you can and don't worry about when you cannot.

  -Westy

[Raubvogel]

After spending about 30 minutes tracking down a Lanc near our HQ off the map, I proceeded to pump him full of 30mm Minengeschoss. After I called him on it, he tried to explain that flying off the map is a feature that HTC put into the game. According to his logic, they want losers to fly off the map or they wouldn't have given us a map like this   It was good for a laugh.

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Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps

[Sabre]

Best idea is to extent the map edge far enough so you get a dot at max radar range.  Still gives the buff driver the choice of using off map area to climb safely, but sufficient warning for defenders to hop a 109G-10 and climb to intercept.  In the mean time, I'm afraid I can't call it cheating; it's not against any rules I've seen anywhere.  Have I done it? Once.  

I had someone call me a cheater tonight because I exited the fight toward friendly territory when the 1v1 I was in (and winning, I might add) became to 2v1.  Later, when I re-engaged at 2v1, I held my own for a few minutes.  Then I had to dive for ack (was right over my field at that time...of course I'd dive toward friendly forces) when the fight turned against me; he called me a cheater again.  Was it?  Not in my book.  The idea is to stay alive, and NO combat pilot would look at running away from bad odds as cowardly or a cheat.  Cheating, true cheating is where someone bends/breaks rules to gain an unfair advantage.  Let's stop calling names and make constructive suggestions to HTC if this is an important gameplay issue.

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Sabre (a.k.a. Rojo)

[StSanta]

Heh yah raub, there seems to be a growing group that say "if HTC allow it do be done, it's a feature and should be done".

It's even worse than the spawning human airmine b26's or the buff dropping eggs on drunks because the strategic results can be much greater.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"You filthy piece of distended rectum! DIE allierte schweinhund!"

[gatt]

Someone enlighten me, I'm not a programmer. Is it possible to fix this thing or it is something they want? Like buffs dropping their eggs between their arses and the rwy just to kill themselves *and* you. No word and no fix so far ... great. Yes, it belongs to the bugs forum as well but ... hell

[Pepe]

After thinking a lot (It's monday morning, any intellectual task is really a challenge), I came to the conclusion that I do not want the bug to be fixed. Just revamped. When you fly off the map, not only you appear on the radar, but it is your Handle what appears.  

Of course, a dweeb hunt is in order propmtly afterwards.

Pepe.

[Staga]

Those Off-Map bomber pilots are nothing but cowards and losers.
Of course they try to justify their way of gaming, nothing new in that but they're still cowards.
I've spent lots of hours in bombers in this and earlier tours too to earn points for Arado but I never went out of map. That's just something I don't do (still have my balls).

[ElLobo]

Off the map...isn't out of the Arena. If you're so worried about off map attacks patrol the edges those off the map aren't invisable or impossible to kill. I would like to see some islands or continents off the map. Maybe with unmapped airbases with special perk planes that you can use if you find them. If three planes land on an unmapped island an airfield will appear...the possibilites are endless HT make the world bigger...Please