furball island... why not?

[moose]

mwuhahaha

[pbirmingham]

Originally posted by Seeker:
Punt

And Runny catches the ball at the 20... 30...

I'm totally diggin' on this idea.  I really, really want a place where I can opt out of the "war" if I want.

I think the "war" can be lots of fun, but I don't think most "strat players" realize just how much their play style limits the choices of people who don't want to play their way.

[BlauK]

There are already so many players at MA that it would be a great idea to split the arena in two.... Furball arena and MA.

If this claimed furball crowd is so large, why aren't they using the Duellin Arena already??????  Why are they going after the arena with numbers when they know that strat guys are there to ruin their fun.

Two separate arenas would mean less lag and more fun for both crowds.

[hblair]

The main arena is now furball island.  

[Seeker]

Any votes for turning off KS in the DA?

*It may take the furball madness out of the TA, where it doesn't belong

*If anything, the DA should be squad based, not country based, there's no strat nor war to be won.

*If you have to fly half way accross the "gladiater bowl" every time you get shot down, you may as wel be in the MA

*It may bleed some of the "mindless furballers" out of the MA and give some relief there

*Wild wednesday prooves no KS and a giant mindless furball is enormous fun, for those that like it

*It may bring use to very under used arena

[AKDejaVu]

Wow.. go figure... those that want a furball are finding them just fine in the current arena.

Guess the argument is just as pointless as ever.

AKDejaVu

[pbirmingham]

Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Wow.. go figure... those that want a furball are finding them just fine in the current arena.

Mmmm. Proof by strong assertion.  How convincing.

The problem isn't finding a furball, the problem is that the furballs usually occur over fields that are soon to be closed by the bombers overhead.  What some of us want are furballs that aren't connected to attempts to capture bases. That is what proves difficult to find.

[Raubvogel]

Mindanao...Furball Island...what's the difference?

[AKDejaVu]

The problem isn't finding a furball, the problem is that the furballs usually occur over fields that are soon to be closed by the bombers overhead. What some of us want are furballs that aren't connected to attempts to capture bases. That is what proves difficult to find.

LOL!  I was thinking about making a list of all the different things that people want in the arena and posting it for you... since THAT is what other people want.  But then... why bother?

The truth is, furballs are there.  They happen in conjunction with everything else.  They aren't difficult to find nor are they short lived.

With the current numbers in the arena, there are ALWAYS furballs.  ALWAYS.  The main gripe is then that you have to launch from a different field for a different furball?  This really merits restructuring the arena?  Hmmmmm.

Anyone ever wonder why Pyro posted that "I want this... I want that" recording?

AKDejaVu

[lazs1]

wow..someone dregged this one up again.   Check it out, ol deja STILL hasn't had that surgery to remove the stick from up his ass.

With the influx of newbies and the changes to field capture.... things are going better for us noble furball types.  In affect... We have smaller arenas with harder to pork fields.   No one with a shred of decency or honesty would be brash enough to say that people aren't enjoying the furs.   Just look... the areas that are good fur territory are thriving.  Minandoa is the most popular map... beloved by all who are not "accountants of the sky" or church ladies.

What a great time to be alive eh?
lazs

[AKDejaVu]

wow..someone dregged this one up again. Check it out, ol deja STILL hasn't had that surgery to remove the stick from up his ass.

I'd rather it be a stick than my head.  I see your preference is opposite.

 

With the influx of newbies and the changes to field capture.... things are going better for us noble furball types. In affect... We have smaller arenas with harder to pork fields. No one with a shred of decency or honesty would be brash enough to say that people aren't enjoying the furs. Just look... the areas that are good fur territory are thriving. Minandoa is the most popular map... beloved by all who are not "accountants of the sky" or church ladies.

Ummmm... maybe I misread all of my typing... and maybe you are missing your own point...

Is a furball island necessary or do they happen all on their own?  You seem to be admitting to the latter.... thus making this whole thread a moot point.

I've been maintaining that an arena change is not necessary to accomodate furballing.  It seems the MA is proving me right.  All that furballing without a furball island.

AKDejaVu

[funkedup]

I always thought Furball Island was a cool idea.  I think we've already got it though.

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]

[lazs1]

well deja... it certainly is proving some points on both sides.   300 plus guys up does increase player density and making the fields harder to pork is a huge plus.   We didn't have those things when this thread started but you pretended that all was fine anyway.  Things are night and day different from then.

Now, look at minando map... works great WHEN there are a lot of guys up.   Lots of places to fur.   Look at Uterus.... sucks no matter what.  We would need about 600 players for that map to work.   Long boring flights both to and from..  People much more timid.  CV's still fragile shadows of real cv groups...

There will be less players in the uterus map than the minandao one.   Watch the buffer.  The kills scrolled rapidly in the latter and slowly in the former.   There were less guys on.  There aren't enough viable places to fight in the uterus map.   The improvements in field capture and the huge influx of players help but....

Not having a lot of close fields on a map allows the strat potatos and accountants of the sky to pork gameplay and cherry pick kills.   Manly furballers and wussy strat potatos can't surrvive in the same environment if there isn't enough resources.  In this case.... useable fields.

The ol gigolo funked called it.... with mini.. minana.. minoa... whatever it's called map, we have basically what I, eagl and lepturn and so many furballers.... wanted in a map when "furball island" was brought up.

Perhaps something as simple as fixing the cv's (the only fun places to fight in uterus) will help... certainly won't hurt.

And I've given it some thot... It would be better to have wood in your head than a stick up your bellybutton (especially one the size you seem  to have).  You can still enjoy life with a little wood in the head.   I just think yu fear surgery too much ever since SW had u surgicaly removed from his hip.
lazs

[AKDejaVu]

We didn't have those things when this thread started but you pretended that all was fine anyway.

roadkill.  We've always had them and always will.  Threads like this are just a means for people to whine about things not being just perfect.

 

Not having a lot of close fields on a map allows the strat potatos and accountants of the sky to pork gameplay and cherry pick kills.

LOL! the irony of that last part does not escape me lazs.  You must really love all these newbies wanting to furball right now.  You and apache just waiting to drag a couple of them out of the fray to bounce the toejam out of them.  Oh... wait... that's just me not knowing what I'm talking about again.

Of course you're right... only the strat guys cherry pick.  

 

And I've given it some thot... It would be better to have wood in your head

Ummmmm.... you'd rather have a woody in your mouth?  Guess you gave about as much thought to that as you did to the rest of this stuff.

AKDejaVu

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by funkedup:
I always thought Furball Island was a cool idea.  [ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]

Just finished reading through this entire thread.  I am stunned.  Is AH so brittle that it can't tolerate some experimenting?

I used to live in AW's fightertown, whether separate arena or isolated atoll.  In my experience it changed nothing; most people gravitate to landgrabbing (these would be the "serious" sim people I've heard about, I suppose), leaving FT to those who cared nothing for Grand Strategy or points ("perk points" in AH, yes?).  Your fears of disruption are unjustified.  Period.

Here's a couple of suggestions from a starry-eyed newcomer:

- Try it for a month.  HT has demonstrated a remarkable capability for making changes far more complex than a 30-day trial period for an off-to-the-side indestructable ackless island.

- Eliminate perk points, or fighter points, or ANY points, that would otherwise be earned within the vicinity of FT.  The people who fly there are not going to care.  Trust me on this.

- If, at the end of the 30-day trial period, the AH community has committed mass suicide, mass murder, become Hari Krishnas, or otherwise convincingly demonstrated the ill effects of FT, I will eat my hat.  Honest.

- Oldman