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Offline pbirmingham

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« Reply #135 on: November 30, 2001, 01:18:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Oldman:

I used to live in AW's fightertown, whether separate arena or isolated atoll.  In my experience it changed nothing; most people gravitate to landgrabbing (these would be the "serious" sim people I've heard about, I suppose), leaving FT to those who cared nothing for Grand Strategy or points ("perk points" in AH, yes?).  Your fears of disruption are unjustified.  Period.

Another advantage -- if I had assurance that I could always up from an undamaged field for a quick fight, I certainly wouldn't care *how* long resupply took, or whether craters damaged your plane.  HQ could stay flat, for all I care, and I wouldn't give a rat's hindquarters what happened with the radar.  As far as I'm concerned, the strat mavens could have all the rest of it.

Why not a separate arena?  Well, I might want to communicate with my squaddies while I played my "air Quake," or might want to up from a different field and take part in the "war" for a bit.

Head-to-head is similarly precluded.

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« Reply #136 on: November 30, 2001, 01:41:00 PM »
Perhaps this was mentioned already (god knows I may have missed a post in this massive thread) but is it technically possible to segregate a section of MA for Furballs only? I mean, only planes taking off from Furball can fly in furball. They cannot leave the furball sector, nor can any outside plane enter the furball island sector. You furballers can maintain radio contact with your squaddies, and fight it out till your hearts content. Meanwhile, the strat guys can go about their merry way. The Furball sector would be a mini-map all it's own, segregated from the rest of the MA. It would have no affect on the outcome of the war, and would have the aspects mentioned above (no bombers, GVs, Etc.)

Seems like an overly simplistic answer so I'm sure there would be problems with the codeing necessary to make this happen.

Finally, is it really necessary to call people "perk-jerks, Amish, Bomber-Dweebs" etc.?

I like to play strategically. I fly bombers to help my squad and my country achieve an objective. It's my style of play as well as that of many others. I fly goons into hot sectors to re-up fields, not for points, but to help my countrymen, who fly the fighters. I don't insult the fighter jocks, and would hope they would afford me and my types the same respect.

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« Reply #137 on: November 30, 2001, 02:37:00 PM »
Muck, you just don't understand Lazs yet.  It takes awhile, but once you do, it's all clear, and his "labels" don't mean a thing.   :)

Tho I like perk jerks better than the idiotic perk system.  Lazs, I say you go back to that one when discussing perks.   :D
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« Reply #138 on: December 01, 2001, 05:53:00 AM »
If enough people are fuballers like Lazs, they should have their own arena.

if there aren't enough lazs's around to meet critical mass for an arena, there isn't enough furballers to justify changing the MA.

As it has been pointed out, furballs are incredibly easy to find - especially now that we got the high numbers.

Furballers will have to move from one base to another every hour or so. Doesn't seem like that's too hard.

Strat people are getting frusrated because there are some who incite and promote huge furballs, taking away people that could be used for strat fighting. Furballers are pissed because occasionally, a group of organized people remove their ack umbrella and take down the field.

Most often though, the field is taken down after one side has lost a huge furball, and the fight has gone over their field. Furballers with no targets attack the field to have something to do.

There's nothing wrong with the current design - the needs of both groups are met. For us in betweeners, it's perfect. For those to either extreme side, there are some compromises involved.

Again, if enough people want just to furball, it warrants a separate arena. If there isn't enough for that, it does NOT warrant changing the way the MA is currently designed.

This stuff about not finding a furball is ridiculous. I should be whining that I never find any good 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 fights instead, because the mindless furballers just keep coming and ruining MY fights  :).

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« Reply #139 on: December 01, 2001, 10:40:00 AM »
stsanta said it... strat potatos and the timid accountants of the sky are pissed when a furball is formed or when there is a chance for one because..... If people aren't forced to... they won't play with em.   Mommy used to make people play with em why won't HTC?

Manly melee artists are pissed when they have no opportunity.  Or the opportunities are few and far between.

It isn't the ack umbrella (although that is a small part of it) It's the availability of a close fight.   A close fight makes for fights between fields with squadmates being able to work together and a lot of action.  

Feilds farther apart cause timidity.   Who wants to get gangbanged after a long boring flight?   You can sit on your hands and wait for an "organized" attack (read gangbang) that will be fun only for an accountant or.... you can circle your own ack and wait for attackers stupid enough to dribble in and hope that yuou are the one of 6 guys chasing said stupid con that get's the (steals the)kill.

CV's being hardened or more of em would help create "closer fields" with current resources.   Sky accountants don't want this because if there is a fun place to be.... that's where people will go.

deja... u are really slipping.   you are starting to be a touch dishonest and, worst of all... it is obvious..  
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« Reply #140 on: December 01, 2001, 10:50:00 AM »
and dja... Are you saying that there is something wrong with apache or myself diving into a bunch of ack huggers (taking hits usually) and mking them think that they have a chance to kill us and still make it back to the safety of their 20 friends all circling around the ack?    

Would it be more to your liking if we got 40 guys together and high alt bombed the resources of the field so that we could vultch, or fight ver the scraps that were left?   Yes... I think you would.
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« Reply #141 on: December 01, 2001, 11:05:00 AM »
No lazs... I'm saying that using the term "cherry picking" as a derogatory statement towards others is a hypocritical thing for you to do.

I've seen you in a furball lazs... I know why you like them.  I've seen you solo too... once again I know why you like furballs.

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