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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2002, 02:18:46 PM »
I always figured if I had a boy I would name him Nancy-Alice, for that very reason.  That or Astroboy.

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« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2002, 02:20:30 PM »
Curval,

I once made the mistake of waltzing up to a defense tactics instructor, who is a blackbelt in Aikedo, and asking him what he was going to teach us with the nunchuckas that were sticking in his belt.

In the next igna-second, I was on my knees screaming.

Bolts of high voltage electricity were shooting up my arm from the 'chucks clamped on my wrist. It was that fast. Later on in the course this same guy knocked me out cold (by accident)

Thats all I know about Aikedo. :D
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About being a dad, I've learned that you do not want to make the mistake of trying to "fix" all emotional pain your kid experiences, lest they fail to learn to fix themselves when the inevitable happens. Be there for them, yes, but don't try to shield them from all pain.

I liked the line from The Long Kiss Goodnight - "Life is pain. Get used to it."  Of course, that is an exageration, but there is truth in it.  Good luck, Dad. :)
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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2002, 02:55:04 PM »
Thanks for all the thoughts guys.  Trew had a great day in school today...and is no longer interested in Amanda...the little girl who he was chasing.  He now has a new girlfriend apparently.  Her name is Caroline.

The kid is a chip off the old block.:D
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2002, 04:27:17 PM »
Curval, I recomend some KungFu also. No Karate, Karate is for breaking wood, KungFu is for breaking skulls.

KeeeaaaaPOW! little Billy fell like a brick. Woudlnt you be so proud a father.

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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2002, 05:26:45 PM »
I am so glad I'm past the grade school fight age with my kids.
When my kid was in 1st or 2nd grade he had a kid in his class who picked on everybody.  The kid was supposed to be 2 grades higher but was held back twice (I have no idea how the hell you get held back in kindergarten or 1st grade). Anyway since my kid was the biggest in the class (except for the Neanderthal who kept getting held back) he was a prime target (so the bully don't feel like quite so much of a punk I guess).  The kid would come up and throw a punch then when the other kid would retaliate the victim would get in trouble.  The teachers kept on about how you are supposed to just take it and yell for help, but their system didn't seem to stop the problem (imagine that).

So finally I got fed up and asked my son.
 "If he hits you and you shove him away, what happens to you?" - "I get in trouble for fighting."

"If he hits you and you hit him once what happens?"- "I get in trouble for fighting"

"If he hits you and you beat him bloody, what happens?"- The light comes on in my sons eyes and he says, "I just get in trouble for fighting like all the other times"

So I say "right, get more bang for your buck, if your gonna get in trouble anyway make a point with it."

My son started boxing at the community center at the age of 5. By the time he was 7 he worked out with the team, kept up with guys who where 14-20 in the calisthenics and ran about 2 miles a day (usually coming back in the front 1/4 of the crowd).

So I told him "next time the kid hits you- and only if he hits you- you don't yell this time, keep your mouth shut and hit him as hard and fast as you can until he goes down.  Then put your hands in your pockets and step into the crowd.  And no matter what anybody says they saw just keeps saying, "did you see him fall, man, he tripped and fell hard."

Anyway so that’s basically what happened.

The kid hits my son.  Josh drops low and pops him on the diaphragm and as the kid doubles over hooks him to the temple with a left.  So the kid goes down face first, bent over at the waist, no hands out face-plant on the tile.  Out cold, lots of blood.

And my boy cheers real load and says "YA, I HIT HIM, SO WHAT, MY DAD TOLD ME TO"

So I get called to the principals office.  Talk about a real treat trying to explain how sometimes boys have to fight. And the only way to stop a bully is for a victim to fight back. And I'm explaining it to a woman teacher, woman school counselor, and a women principal.

It only took about 10 more trips to the office before we got everything straightened out.  But from what I heard from my son, and a conversation with the counselor (that she said she would deny if I repeated) that kid calmed down quit a bit after that.  I know he wasn't a problem for my son again anyway

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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2002, 06:02:59 PM »
Curval, Aikido is a great consideration, good call. you can also look for Jeet Kun Do. The nice things about these styles is that they are still an art, not some sport that they have to win.

As he grows up there are more chances that he will stilll love it, if he goes to a good school, avoid the so called "Belt Factories". Taikwando will get boring and repetitive over the years.

Martial arts are a great way to strenghten the body and specially the mind.

Do him a favor and try to find ways to always keep him interested. Martial Artists who have been practicing since early childhood sometimes seem like the most level-headed persons with amazing peace of mind in almost all situations.

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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2002, 06:21:55 PM »
Jeet Kun Do isn't a martial art.  It's a philosophy that can be used in all martial arts.

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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2002, 06:48:25 PM »
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Jeet Kun Do isn't a martial art.  It's a philosophy that can be used in all martial arts.


I obviously mean Kung-Fu. Jeet Kun Do is the style of Kung-Fu created by Bruce Lee, it is very dynamic and great to keep the interest of young kids. It is also 100% applicable to self defense and street fighting.

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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2002, 06:49:16 PM »
LOL Apathy..great story.

Animal..keeping him interested is step 2..."getting" him interested is gonna be step 1.  I don't want to force him to go, but I really really want him to; I think the best way might be to do it with him.  We shall see.
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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2002, 06:55:36 PM »
Sure, go with him and learn it with him, that would be even better, it would strenghten the father-son bond if you go thru the long and ardous learning process instead of watching him struggle from a bench.

Best way to get him interested is Bruce Lee movies and stories but hes a bit too young for that. Why dont you start taking the classes and get good at it, and when hes about 4 or 5 you can get him in? That way he will slowly gain interest from watching you practice, and when he starts, you are gonna have a head start on him, to help him practice and keep the interest.

You just need the cojones to go and learn a martial art at your age, on your own :)  (though its never too late)

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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2002, 07:02:22 PM »
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Originally posted by Animal


I obviously mean Kung-Fu. Jeet Kun Do is the style of Kung-Fu created by Bruce Lee, it is very dynamic and great to keep the interest of young kids. It is also 100% applicable to self defense and street fighting.


Here is what Bruce had to say about it.

"   To set the record straight, I have NOT (Thrawn: the caps are his) invented a new style, composite, modified or otherwise; that is, set within distinct form and laws as apart from "this" style or "that" method.  On the contrary, I hope to free my followers from cling to styles, patterns or moulds.  So do remember the term Jeet Kun Do is merely a name used, a mirror in which we see ourselves.  The name brand is nothing special."
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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2002, 07:47:52 PM »
One funny thing I have noticed in life, the parents who most often are saying "kids will be kids" etc. are the ones who's kids are the bigger ones in the fight.



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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2002, 07:51:51 PM »
ok


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Originally posted by Thrawn


Here is what Bruce had to say about it.

"   To set the record straight, I have NOT (Thrawn: the caps are his) invented a new style, composite, modified or otherwise; that is, set within distinct form and laws as apart from "this" style or "that" method.  On the contrary, I hope to free my followers from cling to styles, patterns or moulds.  So do remember tht hte term Jeet Kun Do is merely a name used, a mirror in which we see ourselves.  The name bradn is nothing special."

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« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2002, 02:40:01 AM »
Bruce Lee developed a technic called the wheel of the dragon. I saw a video of him using it when he landed a roundhouse on someones skull. It was said to have developed 400 lbs of pressure. Na Im just kidding, I made it up. Bruce Lee was cool though.

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« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2002, 02:49:29 AM »
Wazi, whatever. Anyways, I feel that self defense is important and everyone should be able to self defend themselves. Aikido is probably the best of the martial arts for that sorta thing. I wish I knew some Aikido.

senna <-- despite training, not a good hand to hand fighter. prefer guns.