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Offline Midnight

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Time to Change Reset Conditions
« on: October 08, 2002, 12:00:45 PM »
OK.. I think the time has come to change the reset conditions in the MA. Recuding the enemy to only 1 field is complete BS with the current area numbers.

Last night, the Rooks were down to 3 fields (2 actually because the port don't count) with the Bish and Knights attcking both fields. This went on for at least 3 hours before the reset finally happened.

There is absolutely no fun to be had by the defending country in this situation. The shear number of players having to concentrate into one small section of the map make it very difficult to do anything. The fields were under constant vulch patrol and if you were lucky enough to get airborne, you had to face an onslaught of incoming bandits all of which had huge E advantage.

HTC has made the new server accomodate up to 700 players. How many do you think stay on if the country they are in is down to 2 airfields and there are 150+ on in each country?

The situation is even worse when the FH and VH are down, and the only thing you can do is TRY to roll a bomber. Yeah right... Can't fire defensive guns of the bombers on the ground, so you are a HUGE vulch target.

I think that these 'close to a reset' situations will cause a lot of customer dissatisfaction and could potentially loose business if it happens too often. And it does happen a lot. How many times have you logged in right at what seemed to be the brink of a reset, only to have the enemy hold on to the last one for hours?

When I was on last night, I took about a 2 hour break hoping that the reset would occur while I was away. However, when I logged back on, I was very disapointed to see that we were in the exact same situation as when I left. Stuck at two fields and a port. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2002, 12:11:53 PM »
(edit, wrong Midnight! :D)

Need I remind you of this? :D
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Offline Hornet

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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2002, 12:20:47 PM »
rooks need a white flag button....so the highest ranked rook can press it when they've had enough.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2002, 12:44:19 PM »
I second that idea!!!

Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2002, 01:11:42 PM »
Well I agree with Midnight (always have felt that way about resets).
I think I'd rather see a system where each country owned a core of uncapturable airfields.  Instead of capturing all the airfields to reset a country, make the strat targets capturable (also enable GV's at these targets for defensive purposes, like the ports).  When a country loses all its strat targets, then the war would be lost.

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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2002, 01:13:51 PM »
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The situation is even worse when the FH and VH are down, and the only thing you can do is TRY to roll a bomber. Yeah right... Can't fire defensive guns of the bombers on the ground, so you are a HUGE vulch target.


Don't try and roll a buff from a capped field: you are asking to be vulched.  Bombers have no role in direct field defence nor should they. I and many others are glad that the days of ackstars and car-bombers are behind us.

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2002, 01:18:42 PM »
Don't take off from a capped field.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2002, 01:40:09 PM »
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Don't try and roll a buff from a capped field: you are asking to be vulched.  Bombers have no role in direct field defence nor should they. I and many others are glad that the days of ackstars and car-bombers are behind us.


And the community said "AAAAAA-MEN!"

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2002, 01:46:32 PM »
I have allways felt that a reset should occur when a country is down to two fields.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2002, 01:47:00 PM »
A white flag button..

 So the highest ranking pilot in the arena could change to Rooks and push the white flag, like in the way months back when he possessed the TG and set it out with an intent for intentionally letting the other team sink it?

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2002, 02:01:07 PM »
I normally try to avoid calling people stupid, but.....


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Originally posted by Pei


Don't try and roll a buff from a capped field: you are asking to be vulched.  Bombers have no role in direct field defence nor should they. I and many others are glad that the days of ackstars and car-bombers are behind us.


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Don't take off from a capped field.


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And the community said "AAAAAA-MEN!"



Did you read what I said? We had two fields, both of which were under direct attack. The VH and FH were both down at one of the fields, and the other field was too far away. It was bombers or nothing.

There have been cases however, when we have been down to two fields and the only thing you could do is roll a small bomber because VH, FH and ords were all disabled.

Really, if the enemy is down to those conditions, the war is over. reset the map already.

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2002, 02:14:32 PM »
I don't think so.  

Rankings are scores.  Not leadership stripes.  The highest ranked anybody in here does not have my support for anything.  

Particularly quitting.

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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2002, 02:34:27 PM »
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Really, if the enemy is down to those conditions, the war is over. reset the map already.


No, your plain wrong Midnight. The enemy in this case chooses when the war is over for you, thats when THEY decide to capture that last field of the two remaining.  Don't like it?  Cap better next time.  :)

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2002, 02:43:29 PM »
there have been times when a country was down to 2-3 bases and made a come back.

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2002, 03:02:46 PM »
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there have been times when a country was down to 2-3 bases and made a come back.

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surrender hell


And they were always Knights.  They're the only country with the intestinal fortitude to do a comeback like that (Well, okay, a year ago, today with all the new players, its up in the air...)

I can remember a Saturday morning (5am my time) where we had the Isles map, lower left hand corner (otherwise known as Coffin Corner back then)...3 bases and the Bish badgering us about being in Coffin Corner.  A few of us got pissed...8 hours later we reset that map, and reset two more maps within 24 hours.  I think I flew 20 of 24 hours that day, as the wife and kids were visiting relatives in the east. :)