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Offline Gremlin

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« on: November 09, 2001, 07:45:00 AM »
Just been looking at the fighter stats and the top 3 are as follows

1 - MDMTY Kills 0 Sorties 1 Death 1
2 - Kuso  Kills 182 Assists 36 Sorties 206
          Death 151 (Excl Ditches)
          k/d 1.1269 kills p/s: .8835
3 - Ypsilon Kills 224 Assists 53 Sorties 53
          Death 10 (Excl Ditches)
          k/d 17.92 Kills p/s 4.22

Now this teels me that there is something very wrong with the ranking system.  Firstly what is a guy with no kills who died on his only sortie doing at number 1.  Surely Ypsilon deserves to be ahead of Kuso.  (Kuso and Ypsilon I mean no disrespect to either, just crunchin the numbers).  Am I missing the point?

I don't place any store on ranking primarily because it seems so meaningless BTW before you look I'm 311th so this isn't a gripe in anyway related to my lowly rank.

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2001, 07:58:00 AM »
im not sure but it might have to do with how many deaths per mission?


just a guess?

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2001, 08:21:00 AM »
When the ranks were first introduced I did try to achieve a good position. But for some reason even when I had an overall k/d of 6.0+ (90+ kills for 15 deaths, I think), I couldn't get into the top 100 for fighter score. When I looked at the pilots ahead of me many them had very low k/d, so I assumed score was decided by other parameters in some sort of formula.

These days, I just concentrate on k/d for one aircraft and pay virtually no attention to the ranks.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2001, 08:27:00 AM »
Rank 719 1025 944 1494 1214


dude i just plan suck!!!

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2001, 08:31:00 AM »
Rank & score mean nothing, they are the carrot that keeps you on the hamster wheel  :)

In the words of Arnold

"To drive your enemy's before you like cattle, to hear the lamentations of their women"

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2001, 08:59:00 AM »
The true purpose is not to count kills and ranks and make a score but to stay alive and make the enemy sorry that he ever decided to fly today.  :D
(P.S.:- U wont find me on the ranks  :D )

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2001, 09:07:00 AM »
True, ranks mean absolutely nothing.  But it gets rather annoying when some dweeb starts badgering you.  Couple of weeks back I killed this dude (nameless) and killed him rather easily.  He tuned me private saluted me and asked me how i did what i'd just done.  I proceeded to offer one or two lines of advice.  About 10 minutes later the guy tunes me again and starts a tirade of abuse along the lines of "Who the hell did i think i was telling him how to fite when he was a whole 50 places above me in the fiter ranks"
The fact that his k/d etc were a small fraction of mine didn't really cross his mind.

Yeah this guy is just a dweeb but the ranking page lends these dweebs credance.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2001, 09:35:00 AM »
Rank matters a hell of a lot when you're arguing about use of the CV.

 

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2001, 09:36:00 AM »
P.S.   game ID is SwoopGB.  Havnt been outta the top 100 in 18 months.

 

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2001, 09:42:00 AM »
Depends on pilot. SOme guys can fly and have horraible K/D but if you look you see alot of goon flights and such, some just fly alot, some are just damn good. I always look at the stats that show kills and deaths in various planes.

 Anyway... it'll all come out in the wash when you get that occasional 1 on 1.  :)

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2001, 09:48:00 AM »
The ranking system does seem strange.

Last tour, my first in a year, I was ranked as high as 3, hovered mainly in the low 20's, and ended up 51 or so I think, after not flying for a week.

My stats well, were, unimpressive at best.  1.7/1 kd ratio, landed MAYBE 15% of the time etc.  The one thing I did was go on a big tear in a Panzer once, and a PT boat another time, as well as Capture about 4 or 5 bases.  This gave me a strong 20's ranking.

Well, I'm with a great squad now, flying a new plane for me, and I've decided (it's sort of been decided for me    :p) to fly a different way.  Im 4.5/1 KD now, and landing over 50% of the time.  My rank SUCKS now, somewhere in the 400's.

Bottom line is, rank means nothing at the moment in terms of FIGHTER ability IMO.  I'm ten times the pilot I was last month (thanks to my squaddies instructions), yet I'm ranked 20 times worse.  LOL!

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2001, 10:32:00 AM »
Rank is a peculiar and strange beast in AH.  The July tour I believe I was ranked the highest I have ever been.  The problem with that was the statistics that I carried really didn’t match the rank I was at.  Unfortunately I was forced to stay at home for most of that month and reluctantly had nothing to do but play AH  :D.  The shear amount of time I was on started dictating my “rank”.

I’ve started concerning myself with the breakout of specific aircraft to see how I am doing as well as the K/D ratio.  I try and strive for at least 2.0 in both the fighter and attack categories and anything better is icing.  The K/D ratio is a much better measurement IMO.

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2001, 10:39:00 AM »
rank whats that....................

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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2001, 12:08:00 PM »
I don't think much about my own rank, sure I'd like to be in the top 20 or whatever, which I could if I put effort into it. It's just that many pilots style of flying doesn't work well with a ranking system. Fer instance, last night a few squaddies and I were capturing fields. Goon was near the field's city, one con in the area, I was in a C-Hog after killing the city, I had to pick up the con (get him to follow me) south away from the field. I was low on fuel and knew I would lose those 8 perk points, but that wasn't important. The important thing was to drag that P38 as far south as I could and not kill him. If I kill him he ups back at his base where our goon is. So, in order to reach our goal I had to get killed.  :) I ran outa fuel and let the P38 kill me. He was 15 miles away from his field.

Mission accomplished.

Rank reflects people who fly to live. That isn't real easy to do, and I respect that. But in order to be a teamplayer in your  squad, you'll have to be the sacrificial lamb occasionally. It hurts my score. But I don't keeer!   :cool:

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2001, 12:13:00 PM »
I paid attention to rank for a while.  I noticed no correlation between my rank and how well I was flying.  So I ignore it now.