Rank Whining :again:

[Midnight]

Lazs.. if you think for one second I am going to change the way I play so you will like me, you are sorely mistaken.

Hmm.. from the way you have been talking it up with the 13th these days it sounds to me you like to play dodge balls. You probably get hit on the chin a lot don't you?

If it were possible to go to an enemy field (lugging lots of bombs and rockets), attack it, shoot down a bunch of fighters, bombers and vehicles, and then have a chance to get home in that same plane, I would probably do it. My whole probelm with that is the simple fact that every plane you shoot down can instantly respawn and come back at you. Basically, no matter how good you are, eventually you are going to run out of fuel or ammo and probably wind up being shot down by the same guy you already killed 3 times in that sortie.

If AH is changed to a point where a player can't insta-spawn again and again the moment he is killed, then I would consider it. Until that day, I'll fly my Mustang and be able to get home when I want to.

[Modas]

I don't care what the scores are.  The only person I compete against is me.  The trouble is, I'm loosing

I don't care what everyone elses score is cuz ur all better than me anyways.  If I look at other peoples scores I just get depressed.  

I figger a 2 to 1 K/D is pretty good for me.  If I worried about getting a high k/d, I wouldn't be flying the way I want to fly.   I fly to have fun, if I have a crappy score or K/d, so be it.

Scoring system and ranking system is fine the way it is.

[Gypsy Baron]

Originally posted by Sachs
What is this rank thing?

 Just another form of dick waving...

[hblair]

I don't get too mad about people running, but last night was a different occasion. I've been playing with the F6F lately and having some fun with it. Put up some good kill/die sorties til last night upping from a vulched field.

But last night I was engaged with a P51, spit and 190 who were flying together. I was low and they were bouncing me. They wouldn't turn for anything. Maybe one turn then here comes the pony. I was killed 2-3 times by them in the F6F. I just kept coming back for more though.  
Well finally got tired of that and rolled the 109G10 outa the barn. I caught up with the pony and he of course, nosed down to the deck to run. This guy had gotten 3 oppurtunistic kills on me and it was time for him to pay. He got about 2.0 away from me, but I kept pursuing. He was straight and level on the water running for home. No other planes for at least a sector. He wouldn't turn for nothing. He WEP's out after a few minutes and I begin to slowly rope him in. 1.2.....1.1...... then he starts pulling away a lil, then he WEP's out again, but my trusty Daimler Benz has plenty left....1.0..990..970.... My mouth's watering. Fuel is 25%, should be able to get him. 800 yds..700 yds..600 yds.. he starts to pull away. He's trying desperatley to WEP, but the ol merlin is getting hot. 500 yds...450 yds.. I start hitting him with machine gun fire, and he still won't turn. He tries some manuever as I'm 300 yds but it's too late, he augers in as I let him have several 30 mm cannon rounds. Now THAT was a satisfying sortie.

But anyway, there's a "runner" story I just had to share.  

FWIW, I don't recall seeing midnight doing any running and the 412th are fun to fly with. Lazs is just a button pusher. Ignore him, he'll be yer pal then.

[Wlfgng]

that is definately satisfying and tasty HB.

Nothing better IMO that cathcing and punishing a 'runner'.

Took an F4u1c the other day... wow.. forgot how fast that thing can be.
Caught a lot of un-aware La7's.. mighty tasty

[lazs2]

Ok major... we agree that you fly a plane that is in the top 5% survivability wise...  You fly only that and minimize your chances of getting hurt by flying with squaddies to help protect you from the occasional player who ups in another fast plane...  you are gaming the game but it is fair and legal.  

I simply don't want to hear you cry that you aren't being rewarded enough for such behavior...  

you want to see more of your ilk and be rewarded for your style... I want to see less of your ilk and have you penalized for your style.
lazs

[Midnight]

Lazs... Obviously, you missed a few of my posts on this subject.

Here's a film I made.. note.. no squad mates... no friendlies at all for that matter.
http://webpages.charter.net/davidlj...isthistimid.zip


Heres another post I made yesterday

Originally posted by Midnight
I'll just have to live with K/T and figure out how to improve my numbers

And then another

Originally posted by Midnight
If I think about it really hard....

You're right. I really don't care about rank that much in the MA. The conditions to get a lot of kills don't come easy. Some days, like Sunday night 10/13/2002 I couldn't be killed and was shooting everything down. This morning, I was having troubles even getting in firing position and was shot down twice for only 3 kills.

Whatever it is, I don't know. So I guess I just won't worry about it anymore until 1.11.

And why do you put it that I want the others penalized? From what I've been reading, those other people don't care about rank anyway. So how could changing socring effect them? Hell, by the own admission of some, they didn't even know there was a score.

I have decided that the K/T rank won't change the way I like to play because it has nothing to do with actually surviving an engagement.

[Airhead]

Hblair, you shot that Pony in the BACK?? Admittedly a running coward deserves to be shot, but more importantly a running coward needs to be berated and riciduled on Channel One for an hour or until you run out of beer, whichever comes first. You were wrong to back shoot him, but since he's in a Pony that proves he's a chicken. Plus he wouldn't turn around and fight like a man. Sounds like a Euro Chicken to me.

I'm amazed that backshooting is so exceptable to you guys. I even saw this chicken way to fly encouraged by trainers in the Training Arena! Up to now I've been reluctant to say much about this dispicible cowardly behavior because it's so widespread and I fly naked, which means my non-flying hand has to hold onto my massively huge testicles. But I'm going to wear a jock strap so I can type with my free hand while I fly, and if anyone backshoots me I will rant and rave and challenge the back shooter to meet me in Modesto at a biker bar for a fistfight. The name of this Sim is ACES high, not CHICKENS high. rutabagas.

[stegor]

bla ..bla... bla.... fly like a man....bla....bla...ridicule the runner....macho...being timid pilote...bla...bla...bla....

Having to show what a man you are flying AH its pathologycal;) How can you say that if you are a real man you fight "face to face". The purpouse of fighting is to gain enemy's six, not to shot him in the eyes. (that's Pat Garret and Billy the Kid times)

IMHO AH is a simulation, not only a game; some of us like to think and act as if they were in a real situation, and you know, I hope, that in WWII furballs were unknown, that a real pilot had only one life, that he had to take care of his plane.
If you fly with the intent of trying to recreate this situation you think you are a "timid player"??
When you have ended your attack, and you are low, maybe near to winchester, and bingo  and you are chased you  fly home if you can, sure
Thats not being "a man"???
Ridiculous,
If you play AH like a WWII fight simulation this is "smart flying", like it is gaining altitude before fighting.
You say "gaming the game", IMHO ditching to reup more faster to join again a furball  (and to improve K/T)is really "gaming the game".
Anyway if someone likes to play AH just like a "shoot at all no matter if I die, I dont care for upping and landing " its Ok , free to use his 15$ the way he likes.
But ,please ,dont whine about cowardice and  what so other .....be serius if you can;)

[lazs2]

if everyone flew smart there would be no fights.
lazs