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Offline Dago

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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2002, 06:35:04 PM »
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C. This crusade is silly.


Agreed.

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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2002, 06:36:36 PM »
bah, if you're going to run a poll, do it right. :D

Engine shutdown should be based on reality.  If a windmilling engine would restart instantly, then so should it in the game.  If you'd have to perform a 30 second process to do so, then fine, let it take 30 seconds.

Just because a tactic wasn't used in the real world, doesn't make it invalid.  We don't have to deal with reliability issues, trying to put in things to account for an engine not always restarting is going into reliability problems.  In the real world, if you shut down your engine, it may not restart, making it a big risk.  Everything in AH is 100% reliable.

There is no reason for an artificial, or arbitrary restart delay.

(oh, and on a sidenote, I never shut down my engine in combat, although it does make the 109s that do it quite a lot easier to kill. :D)
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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2002, 06:36:52 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2002, 06:51:53 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2002, 08:30:30 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2002, 08:39:29 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2002, 08:40:59 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2002, 08:41:21 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2002, 08:46:05 PM »
I love these whine polls.  Who needs to read Shaw?   I just learned a new "tactic"  

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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2002, 10:14:59 PM »
Some engines can be restarted pretty close to instantly.  Depends on why/how it stopped running.
And no, it doesnt always do nasty things.

A true story - Richard Bong, while flying his P38 in a fight against Zeros, noticed a Zero going after another P38, with damage obvious.  Bong shut down one engine, flew as to distract the Zero, after the Zero made a pass on Bong, he fired up the dead engine, engaged and killed the Zero.

Didn't take him a long time to restart it.  

Dont push for something if you have no idea if it is historically and operationally correct.  A windmilling engine only needs fuel and ignition to run, shutting it down in flight in a hurry would only take about a second or two, turning back on the fuel or igntion again would only take about the same amount of time.  In a combat situation a pilot could have it up and at power very fast.  In the civilian world when starting up an engine in flight, its more common to let it warm up at idle for a short time to avoid thermal stress.

How about we dont sweat the small stuff and instead hope that HTC works on new versions and significant improvements?

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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2002, 11:16:48 PM »
Against.

I'm here to play a game not dabble in silly posturing for dubious "enhancements". FWIW, not all engines are difficult to start hot. Quite a few do very nicely thank you. There is no possible way this makes the game any better except for those who think they will get a few more vulch kills.
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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2002, 11:44:28 PM »
Exactly Dago!

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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2002, 11:45:04 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2002, 12:10:13 AM »
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« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2002, 12:13:20 AM »
I really miss car bombing. :(