Sniper...is he a Marine?

[Curval]

Remember the scene from the film "Full Metal Jacket" when the DI was giving a lecture on marksmanship?  He used the example of the Kennedy assasination and a few others to show how good the "snipers" were in those particular cases.  He then went on to say that they were that good because they were Marines.

I wonder if this is the case now?  I would imagine that the FBI are going through service records to match against a profile as part of their investigation.

(and I'm not trying to be funny...just thinking out loud)

[Staga]

I bet you could find all info you need for succesfull sniping from web and books like checking the distance from telephone poles and wind from how much trees bend etc.

[Staga]

..took 5 secs... http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/art_of_sniping.htm

http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/wind_and_humidity_factors.htm

[Monk]

Nope!

[Hawklore]

The French have said that they have a Marksman Awol in the U.S.
but I have nothing against them.

[GtoRA2]

Last I heard it was 100 yards.

That is nothing. I could hit a man sized target every shot rapid fire with my Colt target match at that distance. (AR-15 match rifle in .223) I am not a particularly good shot with a rifle since I do not practice much.


Anyone who served in the Marines or in the Army should be able to do that.

Maybe if he where taking 500plus yard shots, I would think he was maybe a trained sniper.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Staga
I bet you could find all info you need for succesfull sniping from web and books like checking the distance from telephone poles and wind from how much trees bend etc.

Yea, but getting info off the net and pulling a trigger on an actual weapon from long distance is like comparing "apples and oranges".  With that logic I could build a nuclear bomb from the net...the info is there , but that doesn't mean I could actually do it.  In fact, if you saw my recent attempts at plumbing you would be absolutely sure I couldn't do it.

Monk...you seem very sure...why?

[AKSWulfe]

100yards is not long distance at all Curval.

This guy could just as easily be a hunter as he could be some average joe schmoe range shooter.
-SW

[Monk]

I'm not sure, I hope he is not.

800-1000 yrds is standard for Marine Scout/Snipers.
Anything under 500 yrds, doubt it.

From what I heard, he left casings at one scene. Scout/Sniper?.......Doubt it also.

Leaving notes and the sort, also not the stye of Marine Scout/Snipers.

But, on the other hand Quantico, is just around the corner.

Na......He's just a scrub

Im praying he is not.

[easymo]

The Fascination with this fruitcakes choice of weapon is amazing to me.  He is just another ted bundy. The use of firearms hardly bestows any special quality on him.

[Staga]

Originally posted by Curval


Yea, but getting info off the net and pulling a trigger on an actual weapon from long distance is like comparing "apples and oranges".  With that logic I could build a nuclear bomb from the net...the info is there , but that doesn't mean I could actually do it.  In fact, if you saw my recent attempts at plumbing you would be absolutely sure I couldn't do it.
 

Everyone and his cousin knows how to shoot, for longer ranges you need some additional info how to correct your aiming.
With assault rifles we shot to 150meters and with rifles up to 300meters in shooting ranges.

Got shooters "golden badge" and three extra day offs when I was serving my time. It's pretty easy to hit human shaped target straight to the chest from 150meters (164yd) with assault rifle with open iron sights.
Oh btw our targets gave few seconds time to aim, you lost the "window" and you were done

[MrOrange]

From 'The German Sniper 1914-1945'

A: Matthias Hetzenauer eastern front 1943 to end of war 345 certified hits

B: Sepp Allerberger eastern front 1942 to end of war 257 certified hits

C: Helmut Wirnsberger eastern front 1942, injured, spent time as instructor 64 certified hits


At what range could you hit the following targets without fail?

Head, A: up to approx. 400 meters
          B: up to approx. 400 meters
          C: up to approx. 400 meters

Breast, A: up to approx. 600 meters
            B: up to approx. 400 meters
            C: up to approx. 400 meters

Standing Man, A: 700-800 meters
                       B: up to approx. 600 meters
                       C: up to approx. 600 meters

It aslo goes on to say German snipers learned much of their trade by the way Russian snipers worked.

[Saintaw]

What Monk said, doesn't look very "pro". My bet is  it's one of your gun totting Army wanabees .

Hope they catch him fast.

[Curval]

Originally posted by AKSWulfe
100yards is not long distance at all Curval.

This guy could just as easily be a hunter as he could be some average joe schmoe range shooter.
-SW

At first I was wondering where I had said 100 yards...then I read the other posts...

I agree...if 100 yards was the farthest range then pretty much anyone could hit a person.  We used to shoot from a minimum of 100 meters, not yards...and that wasn't too tough.

Sure..he COULD be a hunter..or just a militia type.  My money is on someone who is trained though...not necessarily a trained sniper (or scout)..but this guy isn't stupid.  I'm willing to bet he is ex-military.

You guys seem to "protest too much"...like "No way could a MARINE do this"...but, as pointed out in the DI's lesson in Full Metal Jacket...a few marines have already committed acts like this...not in volume though, I'll admit.

[Swoop]

Originally posted by Saintaw
What Monk said, doesn't look very "pro".

Saw,

for the benefit of others like me who dont bother much with news......what is the evidence leading you to believe he's not very professional?

FYI, all I know about this is some nutter in Washington is shooting kids from concealment and, notably, hasnt been caught yet.