Author Topic: Sniper update:Weapon found (Read 1054 times)

funkedup · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2002, 11:05:02 PM »

I didn't condemn anyone. The nitrites are damaging your brain sonny.

funkedup · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2002, 11:06:35 PM »

Go lube up your Cougar or something.

Airhead · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2002, 11:12:01 PM »

Corndogs.....mmmmmmm...... get me one two:)

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2002, 11:46:55 PM »

You infered that Islam is not a peaceful religion by posting the comment, "Islam is a peaceful religion" in a thread mentioning a killer that apparently converted to Islam and was apparently sympathetic to Al Qaeda's cause last Sept.

Am I wrong?

If I am, then I guess what I say is moot.

If I'm right, then I'll continue to remind you of Christianity's flaws in the past, and present.

If you wanna make assumptions about an entire religion based upon a few extreme radicals, fine by me.. but I'll just remind you of other religions f*ck ups. (and they all got atleast one)
-SW

Chairboy · « **Reply #34 on:** October 25, 2002, 12:26:53 AM »

According to MSNBC, the ballistics match those of the sniper deaths. Waa-hoo!

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #35 on:** October 25, 2002, 12:50:32 AM »

I've never understood the need by people to kill murderers, rapists, or whatever in certain horrible ways. We don't live in Biblical times. There is indeed a legal process here after which the murderous bastards will be put to death in the way deemed appropriate by the state in which they committed their dastardly deeds.

That they will die is enough for me. I've never understood the obsession with how people die. Who cares? Why care? Death is the punishment, not the manner of death. That's punishment enough for me. They won't be around to cause harm again.

-- Todd/Leviathn

SaburoS · « **Reply #36 on:** October 25, 2002, 03:05:30 AM »

I hope they get a fair trial and if they're found guilty, to be put in a max security prison like Pelican Bay. They will suffer far worse being raped, beat up in prison (if they aren't killed first by fellow inmates), rather than by lethal injection. It will cost more of our tax dollars to put them to death rather than keeping them in custody for the rest of their lives. I will be satisfied that justice will be served and having them off the streets.
Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are religions of peace. It is the minority fringe extremists that use violence hiding behind the cloak of religion. I am not about to condemn the whole for the extremist violence of the few.

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #37 on:** October 25, 2002, 03:21:33 AM »

Every religion has it's share of tards.

If you need Christian nut-jobs, look at NI with priests leading terrorist cells or Bosnia, where clerics used the radio to incite people into ethnically cleansing their next door neighbour.

Religion is a disease of the mind, and it's symptoms vary.

StSanta · « **Reply #38 on:** October 25, 2002, 06:05:24 AM »

Atheists: unite!

Kill the infid...no, wait a moment...

miko2d · « **Reply #39 on:** October 25, 2002, 08:56:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I've never understood the need by people to kill murderers, rapists, or whatever in certain horrible ways.

Punishment is supposed to serve as a deterrent - including the death penalty. People have good reasons to believe that cruelty of punishment affects it's efficiency as a deterrent. If it does so, not using it would be immoral.
After all, why humanely kill two murderers if you could only torture one and deter another? Plusm you may get a few innocent lifes saved as a bonus.

miko

lazs2 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 25, 2002, 09:00:55 AM »

Agree with DMF... not into torture. simply put em to sleep... outta their misery. I simply don't want them sharing the same earth as me.
lazs

H. Godwineson · « **Reply #41 on:** October 25, 2002, 10:59:17 AM »

It seems that everytime the subject of fanatical Muslim violence is mentioned in one of these posts, an argument breaks out, during which someone brings up the topic of the Crusades. They tend to infer that Christian violence against Muslims came first, and that fanatical Muslim violence is somehow an aberration.

Au contraire. All of Arabia had become Islamic by the time of Muhammad's death. Within a century thereafter the new religion conquered a vast empire extending from the Pyrenees in Spain to India. It threatened Christianity in Europe and holy wars, instituted by both Muslim caliphs and Christian popes, followed. After conquering most of Spain, the Muslim armies of northern Africa invaded southern France, a preliminary to the conquest of western Europe. This incursion failed when they were defeated by Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours in the year 732 A.D. During this same period, Muslim armies were threatening the Byzantine empire with destruction and conquest. The First Crusade would not begin until the year 1097 a.d., almost 365 years AFTER the Battle of Tours. Pope Urban called for the first Crusade AFTER the Seljuk Turks cut the pilgrimage routes to Jerusalem.

So, Please! Let's divest ourselves of the notion that the Christians were the first to initiate violence against the Muslim world.

Regards, Shuckins

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 25, 2002, 12:18:07 PM »

These two were idiots who obviously either wanted to get caught, or they wanted to be famous.

How, if you are firing out of a small hole from the trunk of a car, can you leave a shell casing behind at the scene? They had to have left it on purpose.

It was reported that one of the two called a tip line some time ago and bragged about a recent robbery and killing in Alabama. Authorities were able to take evidence from that crime scene, link it to the sniper killings, and were able to ID the suspects and alert everyone about the Caprice they were in.

If these two had not made any phone calls to authorties, had not left any casings, notes or tarot cards, and didn't sleep in their car in a public place, how much longer do you think the killings could have continued? I think they could have kept going for an extended period of time. Hell, the authorites were looking for two white guys in a white van.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #43 on:** October 25, 2002, 02:53:29 PM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
Punishment is supposed to serve as a deterrent - including the death penalty. People have good reasons to believe that cruelty of punishment affects it's efficiency as a deterrent. If it does so, not using it would be immoral.

I don't get the impression at all that people are suggesting horrific ways of executing the sniper in order to deter possible future snipers. The impression I get is that they want creative and horrible ways to execute him because of what he did and how he did it. It's punitive, personal, and has nothing to do with protecting future generations.

Dead is dead. Put a bullet in the back of his head once he's found guilty for all I care. I just want that waste of space gone and forgotten as soon as legally possible. Good riddance.

-- Todd/Leviathn

SaburoS · « **Reply #44 on:** October 25, 2002, 06:24:07 PM »

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Originally posted by miko2d

Punishment is supposed to serve as a deterrent - including the death penalty. People have good reasons to believe that cruelty of punishment affects it's efficiency as a deterrent. If it does so, not using it would be immoral.
After all, why humanely kill two murderers if you could only torture one and deter another? Plusm you may get a few innocent lifes saved as a bonus.

miko

The threat of punishment does not deter the criminal mind no matter the penalty. Despite our having a death penalty, it did not deter these two allegedly 'sniping' all these innocent people. At that level of crime, be it life in prison (without the possibility of parole), or death, there will always be those that feel they will not get caught and punished. The world's jails are full of criminals that thought they wouldn't get caught. LOL, I'd like to know any criminal that knew they'd get caught before they commited their crime. Death penalty as a deterent? Naw, I don't buy it.
I can just imagine the inner workings of the criminal mind:
"If I murder all those people, I'll get the death penalty. Oops, I better not do it."
"If I murder all those people, I'll get life in prison without the possibilty of parole. Is that all? Gee, I guess I'll go murder them then."
The jails are full of those that thought they wouldn't get caught no matter the penalty.
I can bet that if all those criminals KNEW that they'd get caught regardless of the punishment, the jails would be empty.
Financially it will cost us taxpayers more money to put them to death (if found guilty), rather than let them rot in jail for the rest of their lives.