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« on: October 24, 2002, 09:04:56 PM »
I would really like to see 'the Beast' in Aces High. it's 30 miles faster than the Dauntless, has almost twice the bomb load, plus later versions are armed with 2 20mm cannons, rockets and bomb racks. I think it would make a fine addition to the Hellcat and the Corsair for some late war Pacific scenarios.

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2002, 09:53:06 PM »
And what planes would it fly aganst in those secnarious? Curently we have tons of US equipment from the mid early and late periouds, and very little from Japan the primary enemy of the Hell diver. IMO since the Japanese are so underrepresented by comparison it would be best if we saw planes added for them in the short term instead of spending time on the Helldiver, if for no other reasion than to make for a more interesting event, one in which US planes were not being subed for Japanese types.

 As to the Helldiver as a plane:Quotes from Bombers of WW2 ISBN # 1-56799-683-3:

"the only thing wron was the aircraft itself.To a man the US Navy prefered the old SBD, which simply kept on in the forfront of the battle"

"The other mass-produced Curtiss of WW2 was the SO3C Seamew, and it is doubtful if two less-successful aircraft have been ever built in numbers."

" The experance played a magor part in the decline of the once pre-ement names of Curtis and Wright in the imediate post war era"

"Structural weakness, generaly poor handeling, shockingly inadequate stabality(espichaly in yaw and pitch) and unexceptable stall characteristics."

" crashes, inflight breakups and carier landing accidents continued at the very top of the league table"

" To everyone in the US Navy this aircraft was The Beast"





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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2002, 11:58:27 PM »
i thought "the beast" was the Il-10...if you're sick of US planes & they have to add another one i'm sure you'd prefer a bad one...lol...but seriously, i'd bet that, w/ the SBD already in the planeset, the helldiver is probably pretty low on the list of new planes to add.  of the obvious gaps in the planeset, i'd say the missing stuka is the biggest, or maybe the italian or soviet bomber

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2002, 06:28:53 AM »
When HTC's emphasis was still back on late-war planes, I thought this would be an excellent addition to the planeset.   Now that we have the SBD, the Helldiver has practically dropped off my list.  Not because I don't like it - but because its niche is already filled.    I was disappointed to see the SBD but have to say its beautiful.

Sorta like the B-25 - I love the plane, but with the B-26 already here and the Japanese still missing so much of their planeset, where would I rather HTC spend their limited a/c development time?   IJAAF planes!

I'll always have a thing for the Beast though.

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2002, 01:47:47 PM »
then they should add some more Jap aircraft, AND the Helldiver :)

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2002, 12:06:08 PM »
I still want the Helldiver!:(

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2002, 08:34:27 PM »
No, AH needs more 109s! Dangit!

More 109s, HiTech, more 109s!  We like it!  We love it!  We want more of it!

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2002, 09:50:19 PM »
hmm... I appreciate the irony, but I WANT THE HELLDIVER!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2002, 10:22:42 PM »
Why dont you wish on a Shoting Star:)

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2002, 12:32:06 PM »
NO! NO! and NO!. It's not the Helldiver :(

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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2002, 02:28:54 PM »
But it is a Shoting Star:)

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2002, 02:36:46 PM »
the only Shooting Star I know of is the P80 .One, it was a jet,two, it was not Japanese.
Please,please,please, bring the Helldiver to AH

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2002, 07:07:11 PM »
B7A Ryusei(Shoting Star), funny this Grace thread has a lot of the Helldiver in it:)

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2002, 08:43:09 PM »
udet,

"Ryusei" is Japanese nickname of B7A carrier-based attack bomber.
It also means "Shooting Star" in English. :/

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2002, 11:19:01 AM »
I have a question for anybody who might know. Was that camo pattern on the Grace intentional or just wear and tear? I've seen others with even more bare metal showing.

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