Author Topic: Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.  (Read 715 times)

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2002, 01:14:34 PM »
Wotan,

Perhaps I misjudge the utility of the Bf109E-7, but I really don't see it filling major gaps any more than I see the Spitfire Mk II filling major gaps.  It would be nice to have all of the varients of these important fighters, but realistically we can't expect that.  So what we need HTC to close is the glaring gaps.  Things like not have any Fw190 from before 1943.  We need a 1941 Fw190 so that the Spit V and Hurri II vs. the Bf109F-4 and Fw190A can be run without a 1943 substitute.  That period had a major impact on the British as they scrambled to find a solution to the sudden and unexpected performance gap in their fighters when compared to the German fighters.

I agree that the Bf109E-7 saw service in North Africa and against Russia, but so did the Bf109E-4.  I know it isn't great to use the lesser of the two in a scenario as we Spit fans do so in almost all European Theatre setups.  But the fact is that the Bf109E-4 to Bf109E-7 is a comparatively minor gap by the standards of the AH planeset.


Quote
Originally posted by Gorf
One plane you could add with some slight modifications to the Lancaster is the Wellington.

the Mig 3 would be a fun ride also.

Neither of those are varients of existing airframes.  The Wellington is not related to the Lancaster in any way, shape or form.  It would need entirely new geometry.

Likewise the MiG-3 is not related to any existing airframe.

Both aircraft would make nice additions, but fall far out of the scope of this thread.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Nefarious

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15858
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2002, 04:14:26 PM »
Fw190A3
Bf109F2
Bf109K4
B17F
Sea Hurricane Mk IIB
F6F-3
Ju88 C or G
Mistel Combo Bf109/Fw190 with Ju88 flying bomb
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

Offline Wotan

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7201
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2002, 04:27:25 PM »
karnak

the only work it would take it adding an e7 would be a bomb rack, and and an fm adjustment. With the a6 a gun  rework and an fm adjustment.

Thats easier then redoing the wing on the spit 9 or a mc200 or almost any of the others.

If you are pointing to easy variants they dont get much easier then an e7 and an a6 :)

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2002, 04:42:48 PM »
Wotan,

I'm not so much looking for easy varients, but rather for varients that fill major time gaps.

I agree that graphically the Bf109E-7 and Fw190A-6 are about as easy as can possibly be hoped for.  I disagree that they fill any major gap though.

Also, the Spitfire LF.Mk IX doesn't require clipped wings.  You see a lot of requests for it, but not all LF.IXs had clipped wings.  Graphically an LF.Mk IX could be done simply by reskinning the F.Mk IX already in AH with zero geometry changes.

How many changes would be needed for a Bf109G-14?  In my mind that is the most needed Bf109.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline whgates3

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1426
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2002, 09:04:04 PM »
Rufe, F4F-3s "Wild Catfiish" and maybe this anomoly

although AFAIK no floatplane spit ever went into production (at least one did go into combat though, with the floats removed)

Offline Amboss

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 93
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2002, 03:01:45 AM »
I'd love to see the 190E7 (would be good for those early war scenarios) and the 190A6 added.

-Amboss

Offline brady

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7055
      • http://personal.jax.bellsouth.net/jax/t/y/tyr88/JG2main.html
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2002, 04:11:14 AM »
I do think think the  Bf 109e7 would be nice to have espichaly with the popularity of earler war set up's and those in the med in paticular, not to mention the East front.

 Also the Bf 110c7 would be very nice to have with it's 2 500KG bombs on it's ETC 500 rack's would add much to the Jabo punch of this plane in a time frame badely outclased by the Alies Boston at present.

Offline Gryffin

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 445
Varients of airframes that are already in AH that we need.
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2002, 09:12:11 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen10
If the rumors are correct, the P47M i comming


Nilsen, where did you hear these rumours? Is this a general "it is coming" or a specific "it is coming in 1.11"?