Author Topic: Gun owners and non-gun owners... (Read 1682 times)

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #120 on:** November 04, 2002, 07:01:15 AM »

What's truly funny is the "Guns are bad, mmm-kay" support group that you guys seem to have going on here.

The U.S. was built under the idea of the people having the right to defend themselves. I'm sorry that the citizens of your country never had that right or had it removed. You'll probably never really miss it until that dark day when its actually needed.

AKDejaVu

H. Godwineson · « **Reply #121 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:07:51 AM »

Ahh! The cockiness and self-assurance of youth! So many studly young men, who need only their fists or a ball bat to protect them and theirs.

What will you do when you become septuagenarians? Be content to live in enclosed communities where someone else provides protection?

Regards, Shuckins

Toad · « **Reply #122 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:28:10 AM »

Yes, Deja, you have it.

The "guns = bad" pronouncements from those that have never used them correctly or, indeed, have never used them at all makes me smile.

I'm almost not sure how to characterize it.

"25 Year old McAllan = bad" After all, folks get drunk, drive and kill people.

"Cuban cigar after a fine meal = bad". After all, smoking kills millions more than guns.

Oh, wait... guns are only meant to kill, so THAT = bad. Now's theres a deep, well-thought out rationalization.

lazs2 · « **Reply #123 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:34:21 AM »

untill the human animal is fixed it is probly not prudent to take away the means for the weak to defend themselves against the strong and the ruthless.

I believe that a lot of our socialist friends here are in that situation and that their people have been fixed... in much the way that my cat was fixed. That is probly why they are so facinated about U.S. sexual organs.

More guns does equal less crime. The vast majority of gun owners do not comit crime... with guns or without. They prevent it. Gun ownership is a deterent. I am glad my neighbors have guns. I would like teachers to be armed and airline pilots to be armed.... I would like to know that a percentage of the people in the resteraunt or theatre that I was in were aremed.... and not just the criminals.

As for other countries? do as you please. Argue here if you like but... if you come armed with only how you "feel" don't get pissy when you are shot down (pardon the expression). I bet I know more about firearms than the guy who wrote your laws.... I know I know more than the guys making ours.

I would say... Living in fear is a bad thing. I don't think wearing a seatbelt is really "living in fear" and I don't think owning a firearm is "living in fear". Guns are win win.... Only an idiot would disarm himself in order to protect himself from tyranny from within or without.
lazs

Monk · « **Reply #124 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:41:21 AM »

You know, I'm still trying to figure out why all these Foreign Fellas
don't like our.............ahh, never mind.

H. Godwineson · « **Reply #125 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:55:30 AM »

Oh, and by the way...gun owners are not paranoid. Think of us as realists. By contrast, our opponents are starry-eyed idealists.

Regards, Shuckins

lazs2 · « **Reply #126 on:** November 04, 2002, 09:02:06 AM »

monk... they are jealous and spiteful. Becomeing a socialist makes you effeminate. You take on a lot of womanly logic.
lazs

Monk · « **Reply #127 on:** November 04, 2002, 09:04:22 AM »

Shhhhh..........Lazs, I know you know, I just want to here it from some of our foreign fellas.

Nash · « **Reply #128 on:** November 04, 2002, 09:30:51 AM »

Last I heard, guns and gun law isn't a U.S. only thing.

Oh right, yes, it's only about the U.S... Unless it's not, then it must be in relation to the U.S. and it must be an us against them thing. I could give a rat's arse about the U.S. gun laws. I wanted to know why people felt the need to own them. Lotsa interesting answers, such as being prepared for the dark days when I'm supposedly gonna need them to start shootin' at our elected officials.

Guns don't = bad.

Gun ownership logic = tragicly... strange.

But unless folks here are only after some kinda group hug and don't want differing opinions, why do gun owners constantly wanna discuss the issue of gun rights on this BBS?

Curval · « **Reply #129 on:** November 04, 2002, 09:41:47 AM »

But Nash...we are FOREIGNERS...we shouldn't have an opinion.

Funny, but when Americans come here we refer to THEM as foreigners...perhaps we should change this as only non-Americans are actually foreigners.

Monk · « **Reply #130 on:** November 04, 2002, 09:51:16 AM »

But, why do you care what we do in the States. I could care less what you have for laws in Bermuda. If someone wants to have a gun in the US, so be it. If you don't want a gun, well thats alright too. That is what makes the US so special.

Curval · « **Reply #131 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:01:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Monk
But, why do you care what we do in the States. I could care less what you have for laws in Bermuda. If someone wants to have a gun in the US, so be it. If you don't want a gun, well thats alright too. That is what makes the US so special.

For one thing I travel to the US regularly with my family. It concerns me that with so many guns, and with so much gun violence, that there is a greater chance of them getting hit by a stray bullet from a drive-by or targeted by a sniper when visting your beautiful and honestly "great" country.

Should I still not have an opinion, or are you now going to say "Then stay away from the US"?

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #132 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:10:11 AM »

Umm... Curval...

You do realize you're now rationalizing with the line "I need you to give up this right in case I visit"... right?

Come now... don't be such a tard.

AKDejaVu

Curval · « **Reply #133 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:15:04 AM »

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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Umm... Curval...

You do realize you're now rationalizing with the line "I need you to give up this right in case I visit"... right?

Come now... don't be such a tard.

AKDejaVu

No...I was asked by Monk why I care...I answered him.

Monk · « **Reply #134 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:16:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval

Should I still not have an opinion, or are you now going to say "Then stay away from the US"?

Not at all, but do you really feel unsafe.