Author Topic: The "Justice" System Is Failing the American People: Stop The Insanity......  (Read 1477 times)

Offline Cabby44

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So, you think the Death Penalty is "inhumane"??

THIS is "inhumane":

The whole article:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,68804,00.html


"Frank Jarvis Atwood is a killer. He is also a guest columnist. It is a combination that has caused great offense in Tucson, Ariz., and one that raises an important issue to people in all parts of the country.

In 1984, an eight-year-old girl named Vicki Lynne Hoskinson disappeared while riding her bike; she had been sent by her parents to mail a letter and never came home again.

In 1987, Frank Jarvis Atwood was convicted of the murder after a three-month trial that was televised locally from the opening arguments to the pronouncement of the death sentence.


The sentence, however, has not yet been carried out, and Atwood remains, as he has been for a decade and a half, a resident of death row.

Recently, however, Atwood branched out, writing a column for the Arizona Daily Star in which he expressed his opposition to the death penalty. He insisted that, because of the expenses involved in filing appeals and pleading for stays of execution, life imprisonment is cheaper for the American taxpayer than the electric chair. And then he said: "While there will always be some individuals who insist on seeing those convicted of murder suffer as much as possible, this attitude serves only to reduce society to the level of those it seeks to punish. The far superior course is to hold to the high moral ground."

Readers were outraged. Says Penny Waldron: "This is absolutely unforgivable. I would cancel my subscription if my husband would allow me. What he did was unspeakable."

Says Gustaf Van Acker: "I feel so bad for the family. . . . It brings up the hurt all over again."

Paul Pedersen said it was "a slap in the community’s face to publish this. It shows that the editorial staff is totally out of touch with the community [/i] ."

Imagine if YOUR 8 year old daughter was heinously murdered by this animal and then(after 10 years of foot-dragging by the "Justice System" refusing to carry-out the Will Of The People)he was allowed to "explain" in a effin' NEWSPAPER COLUMN why HIS life was MORE IMPORTANT than your innocent little girl's???

The "editors" of the "Star" and the prison officials and other members of the "Justice"(a word that has lost all meaning in today's American system of Jurisprudence)are "out of the touch with the community" all right. They should also be summarily "out of touch" with their jobs AND have their tulips publicly-kicked for allowing this piece of toejam to publish his atrocious "column". As for Atwood, he should have a date with a rope post haste.

As i have said time and time again, the Government and the "Justice" System are FAILING in their SWORN DUTY to PROTECT and DEFEND the lives and liberty of the INNOCENT members of society because of policies advocated by Legal, Criminal, and Judicial "activists" who represent only a small minority of the public SHOVING their stupid Liberal Agenda down our collective throats.

To allow convicted killers the opportunity to HURT and HUMILIATE their innocent victim's families again and again(by either letting killers out of jail as "re-habilitated" or allowing them to exist for DECADES on Death Row filing appeal after appeal) is an ATROCITY that defies all common decency. Carry-out the Will of the People or be carried-out of your jobs. This roadkill MUST STOP.

Liberals' Attack on Death Penalty Backfires...
 
In light of the sure-to-be-a-circus-sideshow trial of the "DC Snipers", the gross incompetence of the INS in failing to deport one of the sniper suspects as required by Federal Statute, the recent release of the bi-partisan "Hart-Rudman Report" on America's continuing vulnerablity to terrorist attack and failure to put in place and make a priority Homeland Security, and the continued pressure to abrogate the Right to Keep and Bear Arms , we have to wonder if the protection of the American people from murder and mayhem as mandated in the Constitution of the United States has been ignored(if not intentionally crippled)by our elected officials and the bloated, bumbling Government bureauocracy.

As a well-known Liberal agitator once said:

"No Justice, No Peace".........


From Carl Limbacher:

Thursday, Oct. 24, 2002

"Bleeding-heart liberals' latest attack on the death penalty has blown up in their faces.

"For nearly two weeks, the details of Illinois' most gruesome murders have been replayed for the public in a marathon set of clemency hearings that death penalty opponents now believe may have backfired and hurt their cause," the Associated Press reported.

Lame-duck, scandal-plagued Republican Gov. George Ryan apparently thought he'd redeem himself by issuing blanket clemency and freeing all criminals on death row. But things got off to a bad start when horror stories told by victims' families dominated the hearings, and people became outraged that murderers tried to claim they were too stupid to have to pay for their crimes.

"The pain and passion of these families is deafening," fretted Larry Marshall, a Northwestern University law professor who has led the attack on Illinois' death penalty. "It's so overwhelming that people are forgetting all the problems that got us here.
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Chicago's two major newspapers have even urged Ryan to stop the hearings. "Halt the anguish, Gov. Ryan," implored an editorial in the Chicago Tribune. "Ryan's hearings cruel and unusual," headlined an editorial in the Chicago Sun-Times.

The public grew furious when the hearings revealed just why those poor little criminals occasionally end up on death row:

A couple shot and killed a woman, cut her nearly full-term baby from her womb, and killed two of her other children.

A man tortured his mute, severely retarded stepdaughter for five years until she died.

Two brothers beat a sleeping couple to death with baseball bats. The husband was struck with such force that parts of his skull "looked like a crushed eggshell."

A man murdered a couple after telling them to have their last kiss.

A man took eight women to remote locations and stripped, bound and murdered them.


"I can't imagine the public has heard such a parade of horrors combined into such a short time period in American history," observed John Gorman, a spokesman for the Cook County State's Attorney's Office.

AP reported Wednesday: "Family members have transformed the hearing rooms into photo galleries of the dead. They have pointed to the infants in the audience who would never know their grandfathers, the sons and daughters who grew up without parents."

"You could not sit in that room without feeling human and without feeling how vulnerable it is to be human," said Arvin Boddie, a board member who was booted by the left-wing thought police after criticizing the hearings and defense shysters.
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Again.  Stop the Insanity........

C.

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2002, 11:00:15 AM »
I figure if your gullible enough to eat the tripe that the so called "conservative" politicians feed you you will buy anything.

That POS is still alive because the law has been perverted by the greed of attorneys.

You want to change the system?

So do I....and change will only come when we kick both the political potatos out of office.

Before you rant anymore about liberal or conservative topics I suggest you check the Washington voting records of both, you won't find any difference between the two.

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2002, 11:32:18 AM »
^How Liberal of you.  

45+ years of Liberal-Left subversion of the Law and Law Enforcement,  hand-wringing "prison reform", the ACLU,  Liberal trashing of the educational system with a  "Politically Correct"(i.e. revisionist anti-American "history") and its  Left-leaning, "moral relativist" cirriculum, packing the judicial ranks with soft-on-crime  Liberal Judges,  and you deflect responsibility with the usual Liberal-Leftist  "excuse/whine" of:  "they all do it".

Why do you think Tom Dashole and his demogogue cronies so desperately block GWB's Judicial appointments on such spurious grounds? The answer:  NOTHING is more important to the Liberal-Left than the "right" to kill un-born children.  Abortion uber-alles.  A frickin' TREE is more important to the Bozo's who comprise the Liberal-Left  than the life of an INNOCENT human being.................

BTW, you can keep your "bridge to the 21st Century".  It looks more like a "bridge to the 1930's" to me.  And I ain't buying it.........

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2002, 11:54:38 AM »
No shortage of Pancuronium Bromide or Potassium Chloride in Texas. I feel sure we'd be happy to ship a few pounds to Arizona.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2002, 12:21:23 PM »
Okay... what does the government have to do with a private newspaper publishing the opinion of a convicted murderer?

The capital punishment policies of Texas and Arizona are the products of the elected officials in those states. Don't like the law? Elect someone that will change it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2002, 01:24:06 PM »
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Why do you think Tom Dashole and his demogogue cronies so desperately block GWB's Judicial appointments on such spurious grounds? The answer:  NOTHING is more important to the Liberal-Left than the "right" to kill un-born children.  Abortion uber-alles.  A frickin' TREE is more important to the Bozo's who comprise the Liberal-Left  than the life of an INNOCENT human being


Simple.

The Republicans did it to Clinton's nominees.  Now it is time for revenge.

Turnabout is fairplay in politics.  Maybe if the Republicans hadn't forced so many vacancies in federal courts by not bringing Clinton's nominees to the table we wouldn't be in the situation were're in.

But wait, that can't be it, it has to be all the Liberal's fault.:rolleyes:

So much for Conservative's being inclined to take responsibility for their actions.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2002, 01:47:42 PM »
So, Karnak.  Other than making a lame excuse(and an excuse is all it is) for the Democrats, you LIKE the Criminal "Justice" System  as it is??  You are happy with the current severe shortage of Federal Judges(which hurts EVERYBODY, Leftie and Conservative, plaintiff and defendant,  alike) and the Judges-with-Liberal-Agendas that we DO have who  make "law" by judicial-fiat??

Yeah, forget "justice".  It's all about keeping those Liberal Judges in power and the Conservative judges out that matters most, isn't it.  To hell with doing the "right thing", it's maintaining that Roe v. Wade "constitutionality-based-on-phantom-language" uber alles agenda that REALLY matters.  That's the so-called "litmus test" of judicial nominees that the Leftie Democrats use.  Nothing more. nothing less............

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2002, 01:53:21 PM »
Atwoods tirade against the death penalty would be one thing if he wasn't in fact sentenced to die and is using every machination of the appeal process to delay or subvert it. His guilt isn't an issue here, just his use of the system to live longer. The other main issue is that not once has this POS ever shown a shred of remorse over the murder of a child. This POS ( I can't think of him as a "person", I was working close to the point where he killed that little girl.) is only sorry he was caught. There is no rational reason for him to continue living as long as his victim remains dead.

This POS had a lengthy and extensiver trial. He had legal representation. He had the comforts of 3 meals a day, shelter and no concerns to maintain his own welfare. His victim had no trial, committed no act deserving of death, was not represented or given a chance to defend herself. Yet this POS made himself judge, jury and executioner all because he wanted to enjoy himself with her. What possible reason is there to maintain this POS' life? He has no redeeming values and lives only to prey on other helples victims.

The anger at the newspaper was twofold. One they published the trash this POS wrote in it's entirety. Two they published it in a manner designed to give it the most exposure complete with bold face headline, all to sell papers. The Arizona Daily "red" Star is about as mercenary as they come as long as it supports their left wing agenda. The damn thing is virtually nothing more than the National Enquirer and has no competition to force them to be journalists instead of tabloid trash purveyors. They like to claim the Citizen (evening paper) is a competitor but they are both housed in the same building, bill from the same facility, share ALL adds and use the same policies for accepting adds. They also quote each other liberaly to fill copy space. Frankly I'm ashamed of my hometown "news"paper.

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2002, 01:57:48 PM »
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Simple.

The Republicans did it to Clinton's nominees.  Now it is time for revenge.

Turnabout is fairplay in politics.  Maybe if the Republicans hadn't forced so many vacancies in federal courts by not bringing Clinton's nominees to the table we wouldn't be in the situation were're in.

But wait, that can't be it, it has to be all the Liberal's fault.:rolleyes:

So much for Conservative's being inclined to take responsibility for their actions.


Clarence Thomas and Robert Bork were Clinton appointees?? that's not how I remember it... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2002, 05:25:37 PM »
Been to any book burnings or torch lit rallys lately?

Better to be called a liberal if your represenative of a conservative.

Before you rant anymore about liberal or conservative topics I suggest you check the Washington voting records of both, you won't find any difference between the two.

C'mon cabby, take the challenge.....or are you:

A: Too lazy to search for and read the relevant data.

B: Too stupid to understand the data.

C: Too scared....as you will be forced to recognize the fact you've been sold a "bridge in New York".

Personally I'm betting on C:

Here's a little food from Thomas Paine for your narrow "conservative" mind cabby....if your confused by the big words in the quote let me know and I'll translate it to hillbilly for you.

"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself."

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2002, 05:53:02 PM »
Weazel:

How is catching and punishing  common criminals, especially murderers of children, described as "oppression"??  Only a moron, "chicken-little"  Leftie like yourself could draw such a comparison.  

And no, weazel-boy, the "voting record" is not the same.  Ever heard of a "Law and Order" Liberal???

Face it,  Leftie.  You Libs have your head in your bellybutton on crime, defense, economics, hell, just about any damn subject that matters at all to anybody.  Stay back there in the 30's where you belong.  And take your bankrupt, ludicrous, failed  "ideas" and "policies" with you.  The Left is a dinosaur that's too stupid to know it's dead.........

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Just what I expected....
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2002, 06:13:00 PM »
Too scared to face the truth.....

After being lied to year after year how you can continue to believe in the republican "conservative" lie is beyond comprehension.

Face the facts....you've been duped, but you continue to gulp their swill down like it's champagne.

Who's the moron?

If you can't fathom how Paines quote is germane to the topic you need to get some of that new fangled book l'arning the city slickers use....

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2002, 06:20:41 PM »
"The Left is a dinosaur that's too stupid to know it's dead......... "


And the Right is the fish of murder that is swimming in ever tightening circles...becoming more shark-like.

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2002, 07:51:12 AM »
the way I see it, if GWB gets control of the Senate tomorrow, the country will be on track for a turn to the light and the right

If the left maintains its hold, stranglehold, the country will continue its spiral down the toilet

as for the article, if it were my dead kid, me and the editor would have a "talk"
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2002, 09:03:33 AM »
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