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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2002, 02:03:01 PM »
Ya thrawn..thats what the Neandrathrals said too. "It doensnt hurt anyone.." "If the gods didnt want us to do this, they wouldnt have made the parts fit that way" "What happens in  mans cave is his own business".
And look what it got them...they all live in Quebec now.

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« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2002, 02:16:04 PM »
I brought the question and quoted the article. No where does it say "genetic trait". At the end of the article it refers to hormones being a possible factor in sexual preference.

If this is discovered to be true then one can envision a "hormone treatment" to ensure a heterosexual child.

I can imagine parents agreeing to "treatment". I can imagine looking at the studies that show that "gay" people are far from happy. That drug abuse and mental health issues are far more likely in homosexuals. Also the increase likelyhood of disease and the want of grandchildren will move many couples to except treatment.

I can imagine the "gay community" throwing a fit about not giving the child a choice.

Whether you want to call homosexuality "natural" or not it makes little difference if it can be treated in the womb with hormones.

Race is determined by more then "hormones". Genetic manipulation is a completely different issue.

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« Reply #77 on: November 06, 2002, 02:22:28 PM »
Baaaa....men are often homophobic because in the "sexual" sense man is the dominate sex. By this I mean in terms of strength, edur etc. This gives him control over the situation, to a point anyway.

When one guy has sex w/a guy..one must be submissive. This is un-natural for most males.

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« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2002, 02:30:13 PM »
Also... I could careless if your gay. Here's a story.

I was in Korea. Had me a NCO..this guy was squared away and very profesional. He took care of us and worked like a dog w/us. We noticed he'd NEVER take a shower w/us or be seen nude. He was at times "slightly" effiminate in his mannerisms as well. We more or less fiqured out he was gay. Guess what? As a bunch of grunts..yes grunts... we couldnt of cared less. He was a soldier and a damn good one. After I left he got booted for admiting to some moron he was gay.

No..I dont/did not desire gays in the miltary. I simply learned to respect him as an indiv rather than some gay tard. It was a lesson learned.

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« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2002, 02:56:56 PM »
homosexuality doesnt really bother me, I am friends with a few lesbians from my previous job, and had gay friends when I was in college.

What I think is unatural so to speak in anal sex whether gay or straight. EXIT ONLY.

Incest consenting adults would probably weird me out, but that has just been my upbringing.

Oh and never have unattractive lesbians set you up on a blind date TRUST ME.

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« Reply #80 on: November 06, 2002, 02:58:27 PM »
Wotan, I have not addressed your issue directly yet, my apologies for my tardiness in this matter.  I understand that your point doesn't directly deal with the naturalism of homosexuality, wether that deals with natually occuring hormones or not.

There was a city in a middle-eastern country, I do not recall which, that had a problem with men accosting women in the streets, there were some rapes.  The solution that the government had to this problem was to impose a curfew on the women.  The womens reponse was, "WTF?  Why are our freedoms being imposed on, we are the victims.  The men are the problem put them under curfew?

The same applies to homosexuals.  The are more likely to commit suicide, be drug users and have mental problems (depression etc.).  Because a large segment of society discrimates against them and generally treats them like toejam.  

Why use treatments to change them?  Find the genes that predisposes someone to be an intolerant, mean spirited jerk and change them instead (although I really don't agree with that either).

And then end of the day I'm sure the technology to guarantee that you child will be straight will exist.  And although it will be probably within the rights of the parents to use it, not all parents will so there will probably always be gay people.  

The next question is if you don't want gayness, what about shortness, or what have you.  I personally like diversity in the human genetic and phenotypes.  It make life more interesting in my books.