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Offline Beefcake

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« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2000, 02:51:00 PM »
gezzz can't we all get along.

<group hug>

I don't care about the FM, the score, or whatever. I just goto the MA and fly, makes the game MUCH easier.

(Also squelch 1 is good too   )

RAM take a break, get away for a little while, ten bucks say's you're back before next Tuesday.  
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« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2000, 03:00:00 PM »
Beefcake, the voice of reason...

 


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« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2000, 06:09:00 PM »
Ok..... Call a priest.

Hell must definitely be freazing over if Beefcake is being the peacemaker  

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« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2000, 06:32:00 PM »
Geesh man.

Because of a language barrier, it is possible for there to be some communications glitches.

So, the guy tries to eliminate them. By explaining in more detail what he means.

And what happens? "Keep 500 words or less"!

Who are we to tell him not to clarify things that were *obviously* either intentionally or unintentionally misunderstood?

As far as who he is; a paying customer. Just like all you other important people. And, to a lesser extent, me.

RAM has gone off the long end a few times, but with things like HO's and whatnot, is it to be taken seriously? Hell, I've made a few pissed off posts about that, after being killed, immediately logging in here and posting.

This time around, RAM hasn't even been offensive. He hasn't called anyone any names. He's taken time to clarify his position, and he has dared to go against the main stream, knowing that there are others who feel in a similar manner about the "you whiner" crowd. I've had a few of those approach me as well.

What is also blatantly apparent is the cultural differences in action. Americans approach a matter and a behaviour one way, Spaniards another, Danes yet a third. All sides are probably gulty of a bit of close mindedness regarding the other side. For all the American bashing I've done, I try to manage to see the other sides point, or, if this fails, see where he is coming from and why he makes a claim or puts an issue in a certain way.

As a teenager, I grew up hanging around an Argentinian friend, and later on, his Latin comrades. How can I say this, they have a rather different approach to matters than the average Dane and (generalising wildly) tend to be a bit more passionate (for better or worse). I can appreciate why RAm is putting hings the way he is.

Americans OTOH, still puzzle me. Sometimes I think I'm fascinated with them because of it. I think I got them all figured out, and then something very odd happens and I'm left scratching my head. I think it's very cool  

Like this. A clarification, rather coldly (for a Spaniard  ), after some (intentionally) and others (unintentionally) misread an original message. Then a lot of flames for this.  There is a reason, probably the ram fatigue you are talking about, but I am not quite getting it. There exists a possibility that the cultural differences have manifested themselves in such a way that this result was inevitable - each side not budging or trying real hard to see where the other is coming from. Not only addressing the points raised, but also where they come from and why they're put in a certain way. All the baggage in other words.

This is more than 500 words. I am outta school, and I ain't limiting my posts to any limit set by anyone but myself.  

New fm - 109 is hard to kill in for me. Some idiocyncracies, which might or might not get fixed. I hated it early on for several reasons, some of which (like rudder slip speed decrease == 0) I share with ram. Two times have I had cons very close to my 6 but been unable to produce an overshot, with them settling in d230 or so after a minute, and eventually after some struggling getting the kill. But, nevermind, I'll learn.

Still not comfortable with it, and still flying the 190A8, but in a quite different way (which is interesting, because there's not many ways you can fly it  ).

There's been some great fights, and once the inconsistencies are rooted out and I learn what can and cannot be done, I'm sure I'll like it.

Long post, but no one forced ya to read it  

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« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2000, 08:31:00 PM »
RAM, ya goes or stays as you please that's your call.
The rest of ya jerk offs, so trying ta explain oneself has to be done in less than 500 words, but it's ok ta go 1,500 words, with footnotes and flowcharts, on some obscure minutia of some stupid bellybutton varient of a particular plane? Who died and made y'all God? Huh? Think that pixel manipulation skill of yorn has suddenly given ya power over all? PUH-LEEZE  

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« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2000, 09:33:00 PM »
JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY !  


Every plane seems easier to use ..... but i still see em flip floppin outta the sky cuz they "lost it"  ,  the overall speed of the game has increase prolly 40-70mph  (i dont mean max speeds) an thus can sustain a great deal more turning, that goes for ALL the planes thus the "advantage" is distributed evenly.  I still black out (more so now) and still do that silly lawndart thing (but will never admit it in the MA) and overall  ,  i like the new FM , as much as i liked the old one , as far as the costs of playing this game ,,,  sheeeeezzzzz  QUALITY costs MONEY and this is quality for CHEAP !

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« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2000, 10:08:00 PM »
 Minutia. Cool, a new name for funked.

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« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2000, 10:24:00 PM »
Minutia is what FM's, historical accuracy, and computer programs are all about.  If you can't handle it, you shouldn't be discussing the topic.

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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2000, 11:16:00 PM »
I think minutia is what your about.

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« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2000, 11:52:00 PM »
Minutia, I thought that was placenta....oops nevermind..wrong thread...

Geez guys, just fly the thing and have fun.  I like the fact that the numbers guys keep after HT and Co. on the accuracy.  I don't know if the FM is "more" accurate now, but it's a hell of alot more fun.  The fights last longer and are more intense!  For me, I like it.  

For all this other crap....Go , Stay, Explain tell your blue in the face as to why your are right/wrong/offended....its a friggin game.  It's a fun one, but a game all the same.

If you can do it better, then pony up to the bar, spend YOUR money and build your sim.  That way we can try it, squeak about it, and tell you how YOU should do it.  But you do have the freedom to state your opinions on this BBS, and I agree with your freedom to do that.  Just don't be surprised when it comes back at you just as strong.

Goodnight and Thank You

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« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2000, 12:38:00 AM »
   

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« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2000, 03:37:00 AM »
You're absolutely correct Easymo.  I'm an engineer.  That's what we do.   Minutia is the difference between a safe flight and a smoking hole in the ground.  

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« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2000, 11:44:00 AM »
  It figures.

  Im a machanic. What I do for a living, is figure out how to make what enganeers designe
work in the real world.

 A client of mine bought a $130,000.00 machine 2 weeks ago. He called me in a panic, after it completely shut down after 3 whole days of operation. I had to modify 4 parts. And completely fabricate 1 part. Just to get it to run ( If you put steel set screws in an aluminum pully. The steel is'nt whats gonna give, when it starts getting banged around). To bad they dont teach common sense at MIT.

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« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2000, 12:56:00 PM »
Fortunatly for me, As far as my ISP is concerned it's "funked, who?" When you can come down from yon lofty perch, then mayhaps you would stand a small chance that I could be swayed by incessant nitpicking and that lovely little catch-all of yours, "If you don't have a degree, get lost" My, such arrogance is usually reserved for us combat vets to use on you low-life civvies, but since +/- degrees per second is what the games is all about, not having fun, I would venture to say you are correct, I shouldn't be here, And I sincerly hope HTC can attract as many engineers as they can.
(BTW, US Army COMBAT engineer, you draw bridges, I build them sonny)

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« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2000, 01:14:00 PM »
Heh, you build them - while being shot at  .

But, I find funked to be down to earth. First time I've heard him say he's an engineer (but my memory might be short).

Common sense is just that, common.  

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