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Offline cajun

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« on: November 11, 2002, 10:23:09 PM »
I was just wonderin what planes everyone would like to see added for CT/Special events..

Mine are...
Gloster Gladiator
Cr42
Swordfish
Mc200
Italian bomber
I-153
Ki43/44
B25
Stuka.

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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2002, 12:53:57 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2002, 12:54:41 AM »
OK, seriously:

A6M3
B-25B
B-29A
Beaufighter Mk 21
Bf109G-14
B6N2
Cant Z.1007
F6F-3
Fw190A-1
G4M2
H8K2
He111H-3
He177A-5
I-16-18
I-16-24
Il-10
J2M3
Ju87D-1
Ju87G-1
Ju88G-7b
Ju188A-2
Ki.43-Ic
Ki.43-IIb
Ki.43-IIIb
Ki.44-IIb
Ki.61-Ia
Ki.61-IIb
Ki.84-Ia
Ki.100
Ki.102b
LaGG-3
La-5
Me410B-2
MiG-3
Mosquito NF.Mk II
Mosquito B.Mk IV
Mosquito B.Mk XVI
Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII
Mosquito NF.Mk XXX
P-38G
P-39D
Pe-2FT
Pe-2B
Pe-2D
Spitfire LF.Mk IX
TBD Devastator
Tupolev SB-2
Wellington B.Mk IX
Yak-1
Yak-7
Yak-9D
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2002, 01:45:36 AM »
Just all the ones we do not have in AH yet.( the funny thing is I am serious:) )

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2002, 01:49:26 AM »
S!

Comments on Karnaks list:

A6M3  (not really nessesary)
B-25B   (excellent idea, but after Cant and Wellington)
B-29A   (gawd not an uber bomber!)
Beaufighter Mk 21 (extremely good idea)
Bf109G-14   (prefer K4 if its gonna be late)
B6N2  (grunt yawn)
Cant Z.1007  (definitely required)
F6F-3  (not really nessesary)
Fw190A-1  (very few made, better to get 190A3 or A4)
G4M2  (a torch, but would be nice)
H8K2  (grunt snuffle)
He111H-3  (after below)
He177A-5   (we'll never stop them whining till they get this one)
I-16-18  (not this one)
I-16-24   (yeah!  this one  :)  )
Il-10   (post war, don't want post war)
J2M3   (grunt snuffle)
Ju87D-1 (better D3)
Ju87G-1  (YASS... :) )
Ju88G-7b  (YASS...  400+MPH)
Ju188A-2  (Nah, not enough of them)
Ki.43-Ic  (not this one)
Ki.43-IIb   (yup this one)
Ki.43-IIIb  (would be nice but see above)
Ki.44-IIb  (yep, need this)
Ki.61-Ia   (not really nessesary)
Ki.61-IIb  (not really nessesary)
Ki.84-Ia   (Why the heck ain't this already here?????)
Ki.100   (hmmm...  maybe)
Ki.102b  (not enough of em to be worthwhile)
LaGG-3  (lousy plane, better get the Yak 1)
La-5   (hmmm...  already two of this breed...  nope)
Me410B-2   (yes, see note regarding Luftwhiners being quiet)
MiG-3   (not a favourite, better Yak 1)
Mosquito NF.Mk II   (YASS along with Ju88G;7 above)
Mosquito B.Mk IV     (see below)
Mosquito B.Mk XVI   (yep, this one)
Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII  (not really nessesary)
Mosquito NF.Mk XXX   (not really nessesary)
P-38G   (you think?   not the F?)
P-39D  (pig...  better N model)
Pe-2FT  (one of these)
Pe-2B   (one of these)
Pe-2D   (one of these)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX   (long overdue, could sub Spit VIII instead)
TBD Devastator  (yeah... I guess... although Midway's over)
Tupolev SB-2   (piece of crap not worth it)
Wellington B.Mk IX   (better Mk II, need early war Brit)
Yak-1  (yes this is the one)
Yak-7   (mediocre plane, not worth it)
Yak-9D  (Russians don't need long range escort, nope)


My additions   :)

Yak-3   (Gotta have this baby, it's gonna piss off LW something fierce)

Nate   (need the most common IJA fighter in '42)

CR42  (gotta have one versus the Glad)

Gladiator (the uber biplane...  "Pat" Pattles colour scheme please)

MC200  (need early war Italian Monoplane, it fought in Greece, N Africa, Russia etc)

Meteor III  (Yes we need British jet)

109G6 with DB605AM   (late '43, early '44 109)

109K4   (last one for 109's)

Brewster Buffalo  (Finnish model please)

Seafire IIIa LF   (let's have the uber Seafire please)

Spitfire VIII  (purpose designed for Merlin 66)

I-153  (YASS!!!  :)  )

And many more which populate my wetdreams....

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2002, 01:11:13 PM »
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Originally posted by cajun
I was just wonderin what planes everyone would like to see added for CT/Special events..

Mine are...
Gloster Gladiator
Cr42
Swordfish
Mc200
Italian bomber
I-153
Ki43/44
B25
Stuka.


Those are good choices and not too many to be seen as insane.

I would drop the swordfish in favor of a Cr 32, I-16, or Henschel 123.

The Heinkel He111 really needs to be in as well for early scenarios and the Ki-84 (or 43 like you) would be my first next PacOps choice.

Need Wellington, Pe-2, and I wouldn't cry if the Lagg-3 and Mig-3 made it up one day.

As for Itai Bombers, do the SM79 first or we'll never get it.  

I'd love to see a Beaufighter fly, and I'm still crossing fingers for 3-5 floatplanes/flying boats.

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2002, 01:23:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
OK, seriously:

A6M3 . . .


Some great planes in there, I think the B-29 and He-177 are out of whack.  The Germans made better use of the Do-217 and the damn things actually flew, ditto for the Ki-100, too many problems and too few flew.  

I'd love to see a B-25, but after we get the Wellington, Pe-2 and He-111.  Even after the early war Jap Buff (Nell, Sally, Helen, Betty) because we have enough US twin jobs.

I'd also opt for any new plane as opposed to a derivative.

I'd really love to see the Buffalo fly.

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2002, 01:36:40 PM »
I dont agree with the grunt snuffling at all.  If they flew tons of em, then put em in.  Crap like the k4 or spit mk MCXV are nice for the guys that like to drive camaros and wet themselves when a cobra drives by, but the planes that won or lost the war are way more interesting.  Planes like the ki43, and the p39 and p40.  Planes that fought from start to finish not last minute uber models that had little or no relevance to the war.  Remember which forum this list is in and the title of the thread.

After we get planes like the 44, 43, 27, beaufighter, buffalo, and b25 which played a huge role in the pacific then go get the hopped up late war "just wish there was somebody left to shoot" models.....  

Now I am partial to the pacific theater but same goes for the russian, italian, and english/french planes.  Russia had a ton of crappy aircraft early in the war that we need, same with the italians.  Christ we dont even have a he111 or a  stuka and you want a k4? or ki84?  Planes that had next to nothing to do with ww2?  What relevance would they have for a sea or CT?  There are enough guys pushing for MA uber planes already.

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2002, 01:52:32 PM »
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Crap like the k4 or spit mk MCXV are nice for the guys that like to drive camaros and wet themselves when a cobra drives by, but the planes that won or lost the war are way more interesting.  Planes like the ki43, and the p39 and p40.  Planes that fought from start to finish not last minute uber models that had little or no relevance to the war.  Remember which forum this list is in and the title of the thread.
 


What he said with some weenie wagging and nonsensical finger waving at K4 flierwanttobeboyz.

Basically, all those super planes are for poo-poo heads.

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2002, 02:15:59 PM »
Oh yeah, I forgot the I-16 and he111, they would both be very usefull!

Btw, the reason I put the Swordfish in is because it would provide a good early war mediterranian bomber-torpedo plane.. I think it could carry 1300+ LBS of bombs or torpedo and 8 rockets of some sort!
And maybe we could have a "sink the bismark" scenario :D
« Last Edit: November 12, 2002, 02:25:23 PM by cajun »

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2002, 02:50:43 PM »
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Oh yeah, I forgot the I-16 and he111, they would both be very usefull!

Btw, the reason I put the Swordfish in is because it would provide a good early war mediterranian bomber-torpedo plane.. I think it could carry 1300+ LBS of bombs or torpedo and 8 rockets of some sort!
And maybe we could have a "sink the bismark" scenario :D


I think maybe if they model one Biplane they might have a good reference point for a few more?  Same with Trimotor designs?  I would hate to see just one modeled at a time, like to see them drop both the Gloster Glad and the Cr42 on us in one fell swoop.

Yeah, I would like the Sword as well, but realistically we have to ask for planes that will be flown in the MA.  If it was just us CT dweebs, then I'd put the Sword on my list right off.  As for early war bombers in Med, you might ask for the Bristol Bombay, the SM81 Pipistrello, or the Lysander as well.

Geez, we are plane loonies aren't we?  They will never model enough to make us happy.

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2002, 03:03:29 PM »
I-16
Ju-87
P-39/P-400
He-111
Buffalo
G4M
Any Ruskie bomber.

Looks like they're all good candidates for the "Battle of the Turds"

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2002, 03:52:30 PM »
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I think maybe if they model one Biplane they might have a good reference point for a few more?  Same with Trimotor designs?  I would hate to see just one modeled at a time, like to see them drop both the Gloster Glad and the Cr42 on us in one fell swoop.

Yeah, I would like the Sword as well, but realistically we have to ask for planes that will be flown in the MA.  If it was just us CT dweebs, then I'd put the Sword on my list right off.  As for early war bombers in Med, you might ask for the Bristol Bombay, the SM81 Pipistrello, or the Lysander as well.

Geez, we are plane loonies aren't we?  They will never model enough to make us happy.

Sakai


Yeah, I rather see Gladiator and Cr.42 both in same patch, and im sure if they add them thats how they are gonna add them.

I would think once you have the model and coding done for one biplane it would be easier to add another, could prolly just take the code for mono planes and just copy/paste another set of wing collision and stuff in there :)
 but somethings would have to be totally remodeled, like the fusalage. All that'd have to be changed in the code is a few variables I'd think..

Not all planes are meant to be flown in MA.. I mean they are adding b5n kate.. im sure thats meant for scenarios/ct :)
Swordfish isnt on top of my list, could prolly be substituted with kate untill/if we get one.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2002, 03:56:02 PM by cajun »

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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2002, 12:30:05 PM »
Ju52
Ju87
Do-17
Do217
He-111
Fw200 Condor
Mustang MkIII (Malcom hood)
PZL P11
Handley-Page Hampden
Handley-Page Halifax
Vickers Wellington
B-25
Blenheim
Beaufighter
Dwoitine D520
Lockheed Hudson
B-24
Brewster F2A
Fairy Swordfish
A26 Invader
Henshel 123
Mitsubishi J2M Raiden
Ki43
Ki84
Do335
P61

..and the B29

:D

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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2002, 06:04:26 PM »
PAC setups and Eastern Front setups are largely limited. While the Eastern Front offers people some very interesting situations, currently, with the plane set we have, it is even more limited than PAC setups.

 Soviet Russia was the largest participant of the WWII, fighting some spectacular and grim, heroic battles at the sea, on land, and in the air.

 Thus, my preference goes to more VVS fighter planes!!! :)

*EF 1941 setup:
Bf109E-4, Bf109F-4
I-16(need these), LaGG-3(need these), Yak-7(need these), Yak-1(maybe not necessary), Mig-3(maybe not necessary)

* EF 1942 setup:
1941 + Bf109G-2
1941 + Yak-1B(definately need these), P-39(need these)

* EF 1943 setup:
1942 + Bf109G-6, Fw190A-5
1942 + La5FN, Yak-9T, Yak-9(definately need these)

* EF 1944~1945 setup:
1943 + Fw190A-8, Fw190F-8, Fw190D-9, Bf109G-10, Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14(need one of these two), Bf109K-4(not really necessary)
1943 + La-7, Yak-9U, Yak-3(need these)