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« on: November 17, 2002, 06:17:27 AM »
America has many great things: The best telephone system in the world, 24 hour grocery shopping, Creamo's belly, great service in restaurants, bars, stores, hotels. A myriad of choice in everything.

And then there’s the banking industry. :( Well, it’s come on in leaps and bounds – thanks to a little British help. :D

We might be backward over here in Limeyland, but our banking system may well be the envy of the world. When I first had a bank account, I had with my cheque book a plastic card which guaranteed cheque payments up to a maximum value of £50, which was quite a bit back then. With my cheque book and cheque guarantee card, I could walk into any branch of any bank, and cash a cheque for up to £50. It’s all to do with the fact that we have a Central Clearing Bank, which I believe acts much in the same way as the Merchant Bank in a credit card transaction. When a merchant makes a sale to a credit card customer, the transaction is money in the bank. I got statements every month, and an overdraft facility which came in handy if I had to make a big payment just before payday.

How did this compare with America at that time? Well, the first thing that I had to learn when I opened my first US bank account in Springfield,IL was that the law stipulated that a bank could not have more than one branch. My account was with the First National Bank of Springfield. But there were no other branches of that bank. And I had to go to that very bank if I wanted to cash one of my own checks. :( I couldn’t just go to another bank and cash a check there. Even check payments were viewed with suspicion, except when paying bills to people like Illinois Bell and Commonwealth Edison.

I was always puzzled by the names of American banks. First National Bank of Springfield – was there a Second one? And what was National about it? Did people come in from out of state to cash checks? LOL. I had a car loan with them at one point, and under the terms of the loan, the whole thing became repayable if I were to relocate out of state. So what was National about it remained a mystery. Later on, I lived in Mt. Prospect,IL – NW suburb of Chicago. The bank was called Mt. Prospect State Bank. But Mt. Prospect is not a state. :confused: I once asked them if I could overdraw my account temporarily – just a few days, and not more than about $50. They didn’t know what I was talking about! I got put on hold and transferred between about four operators before a male voice advised me ”that’s not the way we do business”. You were not allowed to touch the bank’s money for any reason! One time, I paid for some film processing by check. Funds in the account were insufficient to cover the $6 check, so they bounced the check and hit me with a $10 charge, hence the account was more overdrawn than if they’d just paid my damned check – LOL! At FNBS they were at least very friendly. I was assigned a manager, and we were on first name terms from the outset – maybe that’s why it was called First National Bank? LOL!

Luckily, I was able to cash my paychecks over the counter without needing a bank account. That surprised me. Here in Limeyland, for security a cheque must be paid into an account – that’s why the cheques have “A/C Payee” printed on the face.

I had never bothered with credit cards at home. Cheques had always been good enough, but now I was having problems. People were distrusting of “checks”. I might be able to pay my Osco-Jewel grocery bill by check, but that was at their discretion. There was no equivalent of the cheque guarantee card. All the banks had “Member FDIC” amongst their credentials. I later learned that FDIC is the Federal Depositors’ Insurance Corp – which insures individual losses to the tune of $100,000 if the bank goes belly up. What? I banked with Lloyds (not the same company as Lloyds of London), and over here, banks simply do not go belly up. Well guess what – a bank in the nearby township of Des Plaines (which the local population pronounces Dezz Plainzz) actually did go belly up. Customers invaded the bank to draw their money out. (Memories of the 1930s Depression?) And signs went up in stores to say that checks drawn on First Intergalactic Bank of Des Plaines would not be accepted. OK, I can’t remember the exact name of the bank. :D

Well, the day came when I needed to make a trip back home to Limeyland, so I phoned the bank to order some pounds sterling so that I’d have money when I got there. The person at the other end didn’t seem to know what I was talking about. ”Sterling? I’m sorry, sir. We don’t deal in precious metals.”  LOL!!! I had to explain that “Sterling” is the name of the UK currency, and then all was well. :) (Kind of reminds me of the post office that thought United Kingdom was part of Russia!)

I was amazed at the denominations of bills – as well as $1, $2, $5, $10, $20 and $50 – there are also $100 and even $1000 bills. The $1000s have President McKinley’s mug on them, and I keep mine separately from the other bills. The $100s have the mug of Benjamin Franklin, and he wasn’t even a president. :confused: The $2? Oh yes, not many of those, but they have President Jefferson’s mug on the front. I keep one in my wallet for luck.

Well, I got back from my trip home, and my New York based company was sending me out to San Francisco. I had had an expenses advance, so all was well. But on arrival in San Francisco I tried to cash a check from the company. Can you imagine it! A check drawn on a New York Bank being presented in California by some funny foreign guy with Illinois ID!  I had no chance. Well, I did, but it took them 30 minutes to figure out what to do. I later opened an account with Bank of America, but had the usual American problem. Where I ended up living and working was nowhere near the bank, and I was unable to get there to cash checks. Had to open a new account with another bank. :rolleyes: And that one was Security Pacific National Bank in Concord,CA. Yes, it had reasonable security. Yes, it was sort of near the Pacific. But what was National about it? At last! For the first time, I had a bank card which allowed me to draw cash at any time around the clock from the ATM. I didn’t have to drive up to the bank during opening hours. No check guarantee card, but I’d got used to that by then, and had MC & Visa – and AmEx. Oddly enough, the AmEx card was the easiest of all to get.

After I’d returned to Limeyland for good, I read in the paper a few years later that American banks were planning to end the erstwhile practice of returning paid checks with the bank statements. Reversal of this policy was to be known as Check Truncation. As one bank official put it, ”The world (by which he meant the American banking system) is drowning in paper!”[/i]. Over here, when you pass a cheque, that’s the last you see of it. It’s been like that since the 1930s, according to my father, but by the 1980s America was catching up. Just before I left, I remember seeing TV ads for a bank which covered 11 western states. You could have an account at one branch of the bank, but use any of the others. Luxury! I think it was First Interstate Direct, and in this case, it really was a First!

Banking practices have converged in the two countries recent years. There are far fewer cheque transactions here these days, and people now use payment cards instead. And now, even America recognises my Lloyds-TSB gold card, and the banks pay me cash on demand – no ID, no interview. How things have changed. ;)
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2002, 06:22:56 AM »
America has many great things:

Thats as far as I got.

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2002, 06:34:22 AM »
Heh, and I just clicked on the thread 'cause I saw you responded.


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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2002, 06:48:43 AM »
Well if your that easily amused TOB, I just put 1 lb. of hamburger on the stove, so too make the super pre-NFL Sunday game day Sloppy Joes, and am calculating how many Shasta Diet Orange flavored Soda Vodka drinks I can consume before the Packer game before I need to add beer to just stay conscious. It’s a fine line, and a formula one must respect or just ultimately miss the entire game. Reading Beetards post would have been a sleep inducer I can only assume.

Oh, and I was adding up my FattiKop order. I’m going with the thong, the clock, and lunchbox.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2002, 06:58:46 AM »
This American Banking is a hot topic.

Thread Rob

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2002, 07:03:14 AM »
LOL Creamo!  You're good, and when you can resist the temptation to even open my threads, you'll be perfect. :)

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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2002, 07:09:00 AM »
You mean read them? No, that’s out of the question.

If you could add a synopsis shorter than your sig at the end of your posts, sure, I'll dog you out.

It’s pry some European fool rant of some sort, and ought not require much bashing skills.

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2002, 07:27:46 AM »
I didn't know fattikop was british.

I knew he rocked, though.

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2002, 08:06:53 AM »
Heh..in the great British banking system, it still takes 3 days to transfer money from one account to the other, in the same branch. Clearing cheques still takes upwards to one week.
Had foreigners coming over to work at my previous job and despite being well-paid, they were struggling to open a simple savings account.
Certainly, when I moved over here, I considered the British Banking system to be the most backwards system in the world and still largely do.


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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2002, 08:12:02 AM »
Daff!
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Heh..in the great British banking system, it still takes 3 days to transfer money from one account to the other
I do that a lot - one phone call, instant transaction. Who says it takes 3 days? :confused:

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2002, 08:19:23 AM »
Ive never banked in England, but I bet it gets interesting once you get to the balance the check book part and "they never have deposit slips next to pubs bloke" bit. Pass the tack hammer.




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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2002, 08:22:54 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2002, 09:55:40 AM »
Who thinks Green Bay is going to the Super Bowl?

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2002, 10:04:08 AM »
Not me, but Im sure hanging in for every Sunday fun NFL action. If any team gets blown out, with the NFL package you can just turn the channel.

What's more a point spread is if DRippy can post a actual topic not from cnn, or a respond without images. It's like he's thought crippled, and cant type because of a mental void or something. Duh....Add image here!
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2002, 10:27:38 AM »
I don't know creamo, homefield advantage is starting to look likely thru the playoffs.  And we all know what a winning combination frozen tundra and cheap vodka is.