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Offline ZAMO

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That Old Debate- "plane" or "pilot"?
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2002, 04:31:32 AM »
Urchin,

Some days ago, I and 4 mates with different planes I cant remember fought you all the same time. I remember I was going to have an easy kill on your TA152, but you did a quick vertical scissors and got my dora, then you kill my mates. I re-uped and when I got there any of my mates were flying. "Urchin has landed 8 kills in a TA152".

It was THE MAN there.....you have all my respect .... you are a great pilot. I could never do what you did there....no matter my plane of choice.

(S) Zamo

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That Old Debate- "plane" or "pilot"?
« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2002, 08:53:50 AM »
Of course the plane matters, just not as much as the pilot.:)
"Willy's gone and made another,
Something like it's elder brother-
Wing tips rounded, spinner's bigger.
Unbraced tailplane ends it's figure.
One-O-nine F is it's name-
F is for futile, not for fame."

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That Old Debate- "plane" or "pilot"?
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2002, 09:22:46 AM »
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Originally posted by wulfie
Turbot, I don't think anyone has commented one way or the other on Urchin's 'flying ability' in this thread.

Just my $.02.

Mike/wulfie


Again I am not specific enough - I really should write longer explanations, maybe include pictures, but I thought the data was self explanatory.

Title of Thread:  Plane or pilot
Poster:  Urchin
Data:  Three of Urchin's 190's w/ Results.

This is the relevance.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2002, 11:02:52 AM by Turbot »

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« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2002, 09:47:20 AM »
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So its clear He doesn't have any thing to complain about.


He wasn't.

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That Old Debate- "plane" or "pilot"?
« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2002, 02:00:16 PM »
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Originally posted by ZAMO
Urchin,

Some days ago, I and 4 mates with different planes I cant remember fought you all the same time. I remember I was going to have an easy kill on your TA152, but you did a quick vertical scissors and got my dora, then you kill my mates. I re-uped and when I got there any of my mates were flying. "Urchin has landed 8 kills in a TA152".

It was THE MAN there.....you have all my respect .... you are a great pilot. I could never do what you did there....no matter my plane of choice.

(S) Zamo


First day?  :D

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That Old Debate- "plane" or "pilot"?
« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2002, 02:22:43 PM »
You poor fools. Urchin actually hires a good pilot to fly on his PC with his HOTAS.

He's in charge of the keyboard ;) ;) ;) :D :D

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That Old Debate- "plane" or "pilot"?
« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2002, 05:04:42 PM »
In aerial combat what really counts is SA, tactics and numbers, so, for MA is the player/s what counts over the plane by a wide margin.

In the very particular case of a dogfight 1 vs 1, basically, the plane determines what and what not the pilot can do, so, in the long term, is the plane over the pilot unless we refer to very similiar planes.