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Offline Kanth

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« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2002, 01:52:51 PM »
In other countries this maybe so due to laws, but not in the US anymore.

But it'll still take time for women to realize that their worth to themselves isn't in their beauty no matter how much they have it drilled into them by TV, movies, magazines.

And that whole, trade off of giving over your life and dreams to some man in return for survival and protection needs to be forgotten as well.

new relationships need to be defined and new outlooks on life obtained and new value in self found.

and for the end comment.

Not all men think this way, just some, and the smart women avoid those folks.

I have to say tho, I was shocked to see a post like this with any essence of understanding from a man. It's a bit harsh and leaves no responsability with the women which I disagree with but I understand where you are coming from.

It is always interesting reading these boards, dominated by the views of men and their differing outlooks on life..always in the male perspective but it so much matches mine (in some cases) except for the scorn for women and desire for them.


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Women are second class citizens in every country. If a man got pregnant, we would not be having this discussion. Abortion is a womens defense against being tied to some "Daddy will take care of you honey" kind of guy. You would be surprised how many acts of "rape" occur thru socio-economic oppression.

Funny how men think life is precious, but women are chattel with no life other than be a brood mare.

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« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2002, 01:56:21 PM »
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Better go see the dentist stevie.....


If  you dont have anyting to post why dont you just shut up? I mean...apparently you cant make an argument yourself. The only thing we ever see is when you occationally post some random hate filled rambling. Then you sit on the sideline cheering for whomever you feel close to or whatever.

My teeth are fine thank you. One of the benefits of living in a socialist country with free dental care. How are your own teeth?

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« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2002, 02:00:47 PM »
When Dowding already beat you like a drum........

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If  you dont have anyting to post why dont you just shut up? I mean...apparently you cant make an argument yourself. The only thing we ever see is when you occationally post some random hate filled rambling. Then you sit on the sideline cheering for whomever you feel close to or whatever.

My teeth are fine thank you. One of the benefits of living in a socialist country with free dental care. How are your own teeth?

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« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2002, 02:37:04 PM »
In a society where physical strength is not an issue, that pay scales are not gender based, then women will need men only for a sperm supply to reproduce. They will not need to wash his socks.

Women abort..

rape
incest
health
financial insecurity(no one to support her and no abilty to support herself, monies so short that other family members will suffer,fear of being tied to an abusive male), now someone will say that her inability to obtain birth control info, her lack of education, her poor socialization because her parents were poorly socialized, undereducaed,abusive, violent are all her fault.
personal choice

Women abort because we humans are flesh and blood. Not some abstract in differing logics

Can you think of any other reasons women abort?


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Re: What can I possibly add....
« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2002, 02:49:18 PM »
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When Dowding already beat you like a drum........


So why post at all?

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« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2002, 02:55:48 PM »
st santa... Are you saying that the unborn are "human" when they are capable of surviving without the mother?   or do you believe that they are human when the head pops out?   Maygbe when the whole body is out?   or is it when the doc smack their bellybutton and makes em cry?   No?  maybe when they start to walk or, even after they put together their first sentance?
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« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2002, 03:00:52 PM »
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or is it when the doc smack their bellybutton and makes em cry?    


That's to get them to start breathing on their own...
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« Reply #97 on: November 19, 2002, 03:01:40 PM »
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Can you think of any other reasons women abort?


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weight gain & stretch marks

dare to bet on the number of those as compared to numbers of say "rape victims"?
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« Reply #98 on: November 19, 2002, 03:04:40 PM »
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That's to get them to start breathing on their own...
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Holy crap!  Anyone smacks my kid is asking for a kick in the head.  Cripes.

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« Reply #99 on: November 19, 2002, 03:47:57 PM »
I have no doubt there are aborts of they vain kind. But think, if a women can maintain that kind of life style, she is not likely to get pregnant to begin with. Educated, finacially abled women  can usually get pregnant when they want to.

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« Reply #100 on: November 19, 2002, 04:30:24 PM »
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Yep, its her right to terminate the child she is carrying - still doesn't change the fact she killed/murder the baby does it?

So you approve using abortion as a casual means of birth control?


As I've mentioned in threads like this before, I don't think it's right, but I also don't oppose it.  Nor do I lay judgement to upon anyone who chooses to do it.


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« Reply #101 on: November 19, 2002, 04:32:58 PM »
Whoo eee!

Sorry Steve, I've been real busy today, so I have only had the time to try to lighten the mood in my lame little way.

It just seems to me that everyone is missing the point regarding Abortion.

We have some well educated and thoughtful people posting here, and almost no one can agree on when abortion becomes murder.

All this means is that we should never let an issue like this be decided by anyone except ourselves. Do what your conscience allows and keep the government out of the decision.

http://www.visembryo.com/baby/

Is a very good source of information on the development of the zygote/ embryo/ fetus

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« Reply #102 on: November 19, 2002, 05:25:01 PM »
it should be up to the mother IMO.

not the government.

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« Reply #103 on: November 19, 2002, 05:28:45 PM »
Sorry for the lateish answer. 16 hour day, finishing off code for the project. Exam in 10 hours :).

I'll have an aswer for ya in a day or two. Had to order a book from the library. While a bit technical, it's pretty good. Will post a response in a new thread when I get it.

Won't go half-way on this, so I'll have some litteratue to back me up. Just hold on.

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« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2002, 07:23:39 AM »
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.... I don't think it's right, but I also don't oppose it....  
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