Author Topic: secret weapons of uncle joe (Read 566 times)

lord dolf vader · « **on:** November 25, 2002, 02:33:38 AM »

can you imagin the look on the first german soldiers faces when they saw one of these.

russians rule lol.

http://www.battlefield.ru/library/bookshelf/aerosani/aerosan.html

Nilsen · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2002, 08:40:12 AM »

WOW

very.....James Bond'ish

ra · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2002, 08:46:18 AM »

How do you steer that thing?

Imp · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2002, 10:09:07 AM »

Snowmobiles usually have skies that can move left and right I think

Shiva · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2002, 10:30:54 AM »

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Originally posted by ra
How do you steer that thing?

The forward skis have a steering mechanism.

vorticon · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2002, 10:34:26 AM »

u steer it the way you would steer any snowmobile...

and yes...probably there faces were what mine was like...crazy russians trying to kill the nazis with laughter

Grendel · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2002, 03:18:32 AM »

Nothing to laugh about, those snowmobiles.

Very fast, very mobile. Able to insert troops quickly. They were used in the Finnish front from the winter 41-42 forwards and were at times large scale problem, even so that the Air Force bombers flew missions against snowmobile bases. Also patrol aircraft and fighters were used to search and kill the snowmobiles.

You're just showing that you have very little knowlegde about winter fighting by laughing. Winter fighting is not the same as in warm summer or Normandy'44.

ra · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2002, 07:46:37 AM »

Were the Finnish snow mobiles propellor driven? That is what is amusing about this design. It would be surprising if this design ever made it off the drawing board. It looks like a fun toy to drive around on a frozen lake, but for manuevering across a winter battlefield, treads would be better than a propellor in almost every way.

ra

Staga · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2002, 10:13:52 AM »

Guess question is about how complicated/expensive/heavy technology do you want to use:
Skis are easy to manufacture and engine doesn't need a gear-box. Cheap to build and at same time very fast.

Charon · « **Reply #9 on:** November 26, 2002, 10:25:42 AM »

They look efficient. My only observation is that a prop guard like they have on the swamp boats might have been in order. You dont want to hit a rough patch at speed and get thrown from your seat

Charon

Staga · « **Reply #10 on:** November 26, 2002, 10:33:11 AM »

btw those things have evolved to Hydrocopters, They're very good when you need to use same vehicle in snow, water, ice and some can be driven in roads too with retractable wheels.

One used by Finnish Frontier Guard:

Staga · « **Reply #11 on:** November 26, 2002, 10:37:44 AM »

btw 150hp, top speed over 100kmh on ice or hard snow.

Staga · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2002, 10:40:09 AM »

Another model:

ra · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2002, 10:44:39 AM »

Well, here are some disadvantages of props vs treads:

-props will create torque, making steering difficult at low speeds where skis can't generate enough turn. There is no rudder on this Russian design.

-props create a huge amount of noise

-props will blow a cloud of snow behind them, making detection easier

-a prop will disintegrate if it strkes a tree or the ground

-a prop is dangerous

-in some weather conditions a prop will get iced up and lose thrust

The only advantage to a prop is that it will create thrust no matter how slippery the ground is.

ra

Seeker · « **Reply #14 on:** November 26, 2002, 11:43:02 AM »

Don't laugh too much, just remember how efficient the Florida everglade prop driven boats are....